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[Datisi]

VOTE: andres

i need more georgebailey.

do you think scum are committed to my lynch or not?

just like with VP, i'm not sure why scum would start backing down from the push on my at this point.

if you think i have the full grasp of what the scumteam's plans are at this point... gonna have to disappoint.

i do think if you're town, there's at least one trying to push this through. i feel like a lot of arguments seen against you that boil down to "ico is play anti-town with the way he's sorting, therefore it's scum" which reminds me of the arguments i make sometimes as scum... but unless they're purposefully big brain trying to fuck with VCA, they're probably not all committed.

[Datisi]

gun to head, at least one of them is gonna be somewhat vocal in opposing wagoning you. but i don't think that's helpful, really.

[NoPowerOverMe]

VOTE: andres

[Datisi]

for how much we disagreed early game, this is giving me the heebie-jeebies

can you elaborate on your Opinion of Andresss

[NoPowerOverMe]

I disagree with his Iconemum push and I disagree with his rant about MS meta.

[Iconeum]

hmm

of all players pushing me, i'm feeling relatively good about andres actually

why do you consider his push on me a scum!push and why is ranting about MS meta scum indicative?

[Iconeum]

weekend vla

back on monday

[NoPowerOverMe]

I just don't see the town purpose of pushing you at all. As for MS Meta, It's like signing up for a soccer game and complaining about the low scoring games. There's just not going to be anything good that comes out of it.

[Iconeum]

I just don't see the town purpose of pushing you at all. As for MS Meta, It's like signing up for a soccer game and complaining about the low scoring games. There's just not going to be anything good that comes out of it.

i think/feel that andres truly believes what it's pushing, as wrong as it in fact is and despite what others are telling him

not everyone who's pushing me is scum, and some of them *truly* believe what they see in me

andres is likely in this category

[Iconeum]

As for MS Meta, It's like signing up for a soccer game and complaining about the low scoring games. There's just not going to be anything good that comes out of it.

oh man

i don't see why that pings you tho

it was a small rant about these games being larger and longer then what he's used to. And it also explained why he wasn't very interested in re-assessing me.

[Datisi]

ico, do you scumread anyone other than koba rn? (and do you even scumread them)

[Iconeum]

ico, do you scumread anyone other than koba rn? (and do you even scumread them)

him refusing to engage with me and the way is is treating my slot make it impossible for me to townread him

strong scumreads is not something i currently have but i'll make a list

[Iconeum]

DK/janko

with a slither of NPOW - I don't like these latest posts and the reasoning behind them

DK and janko for what i have already explained and the utter lack of Original reads/opinions.

[Iconeum]

Maybe someone like VP, who figured that if he has to push me this hard to lynch me, would lose a TON of town credit upon my flip and decided it's probably not worth it.

[Iconeum]

my townreads have not really changed, except for NPOW who is really all over the spectrum wrt quality posts (nothing personal, you just have some very townie posts and a couple really scummy ones) - make it hard to get a solid read there

[Datisi]

zzz

VOTE: janko

game difficult

is there anything making snowblaze town to you other than That One Post

[Iconeum]

generally feeling solvey, interacting with players, trying to get reads. Feels more like a townie without good reads trying to establish a foothold then scum doing their thing.

like, allround townie work? Lacking some strong conclusions i guess.

What's the scumcase on Snow again?

[Datisi]

posts generally going nowhere, lowkey scummy reaction to getting wagoned

i wanna say her hellbooks vote is giving me a bad vibe of "hey look! i am interested in solving! why is nobody talking to me! talk to me about hellbooks!" but /shrug it might be me projecting how i play scum more than actual scum motivation.

[Iconeum]

lowkey scummy reaction to getting wagoned

scummier then, say, NPOW in the early game reaction to those 2 votes on him?

[Iconeum]

who's actually townreading koba here?

[Datisi]

i'd say so. his annoyance didn't seem to have a way to earn him favours, while snowblaze's "carefree" reactions to me seem like scum trying to appear nonchalant about it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I think like most younger people DKK is a little self centered. She wanted to make a loud entrance for some reason and then realized it wasn't being taken well and had the good sense to back off a little. I have her as town at the moment but I want to see more reads from her.

[VP Baltar]

Speaking of snowblaze, they're another person I'd put in the "to yeet" pile with Billy Pilgrim for literally doing nothing so far to push the game forward. Particularly don't care for snowblaze's reaction to getting a few minor votes. Seemed quite exasperated to some mild pressure.

(snip)

Anyhow, right now we should yeet Billy or Snowblaze. Both are useless and high likelihood to be the scum who juuuuuust doesn't quite get the game state. They're both out of sync and trying to fit in like the 40 year old in a too-tight T-shirt at a singles mixer.

I don’t like this post, but I don’t even know if it’s AI at all. I just completely disagree on principle. (May or may not be because it’s me you’re talking about.)

The exasperation is because, as I mentioned earlier, I’ve been wagoned day one as town quite a bit recently and I don’t want it to happen again.

“doing nothing to push the game forward” - that’s kind of hard to do without scumreads a lot stronger than day-one-me ever gets unless I’m confbiasing.

“Useless”... no. Just no. That’s... really not true. I’m just approaching the game in a different way.

And even if I was “useless”, I don’t even see how that makes me scum as opposed to useless town.

How is anyone seeing this as town?

1) complains about getting wagoned when never facing any actual pressure
2) says she can't scumhunt rn because it's D1
3) THEN says she's definitely not being useless, despite just saying she's not pushing the game forward.
4) then says "jk if I am useless, it's not AI"

UNVOTE:
VOTE: snowblaze

Yeet this. Snowblaze is scum that doesn't know what to do because there is an active group that seems pretty town. I get it! That's a hard spot to be in when you're scum. Tough roll. GG.

In other news:

The Ico/Andres back and forth is hurting my head a little. I feel like all these Ico interactions end up being pages of "NO YOU'RE WRONG" arguments about tiny tiny points that aren't that illuminating. We need to be looking at broader issues at this point. Snowblaze and Billy are the coasting scum here.

[VP Baltar]

Oh also, Koba's pronoun is they.

I'm sure they get misgendered plenty on this site (who doesn't), but friendly reminder.

[Datisi]

baltar, do you think i should be townreading you by now? or like, do you think you've done things worthy of a townread?