Mini 2156: Launch Mob [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 2.1

Blair

(1): Dunnstral

Dunnstral

(1): Blair

Not voting

(6): CantLynchAPuppy, midwaybear, ready2rock, Mafia Goon, Nosferatu, Battle Mage

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to launch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-08-16 21:37:00)

[Blair]

I guess people can check for themselves, then, since I can't exactly quote other ongoing games in here.

You had other posts, in other games, between your last post in this thread and the end of the phase.

[CantHateAPuppy]

What's the case on ydrasse? I have her as slight town right now

OK put some thought into it, and have 3 thoughts

1. I trust IV and the way he cc'ed
2. I'm trusting of what other people are saying about setup stuff since quite a few people are coming to similar conclusions
3. I think trying to rush to an elim of anyone else at this stage of the day would be

really

bad for town

So all of these lead me to VOTE: Ydrasse

yeah midway is right, this progression does look kinda weak

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: Nosferatu

V/LA for weekend

[ready2rock]

What's the case on ydrasse? I have her as slight town right now

OK put some thought into it, and have 3 thoughts

1. I trust IV and the way he cc'ed
2. I'm trusting of what other people are saying about setup stuff since quite a few people are coming to similar conclusions
3. I think trying to rush to an elim of anyone else at this stage of the day would be

really

bad for town

So all of these lead me to VOTE: Ydrasse

yeah midway is right, this progression does look kinda weak

I made 4 posts in between this

So I guess yeah, the progression looks pretty weak if you take away, y'know, any context of a progression

For the record, I didn't have her read as scum based on the content of her posts at all, nothing really jumped out to me (aside from what I said at 387, which wasn't clear cut enough to me to sway me to a vote), so I don't think I would've voted her if it hadn't been for IV counter claiming

And to answer your question earlier, I think off wagon is more likely, mostly because I read most of the people on wagon as town atm, while the people off wagon have largely been null to scum for me

[Blair]

I made 4 posts in between this

So I guess yeah, the progression looks pretty weak if you take away, y'know, any context of a progression

Good point.

*checks context*

I mean if I'm outvoted then I'm outvoted, but I think Dunn looks way scummier, and while I think MG's point is the most solid against ydarsse right now, I'm still not convinced

How has Dunn provided any help or benefit to the town? The reason I held off on a scumread or vote was to give him the time to start scumhunting or posting any substantial content, and he just...hasn't

If Dunnstral is Town, Ready2rock looks bad here.

[Dunnstral]

I think your push on me is particularly weak

It's true I was active on site after I posted in here, but nothing interesting was happening at the time

The counterclaim came something like 4 hours later

[Mafia Goon]

Morning, fellows. First impression: I'm sus of redrock and Blair for yesterday, with some tingly feelings that it could be Launchy. The tingles might be feelings of friendship though, so bear with me on that one.

Will post more tomorrow.

[Mafia Goon]

VOTE: redrock

[ready2rock]

I am only as confident as the information I am getting from you guys

I don't like this.

Retracting intent.

He's counter-claiming without telling us his role

or

taking any responsibility for the outcome.

I'd rather launch Dunnstral today and let the PR claims self-sort.

I mean you held this opinion even after the claims came out, so if I'd come out looking bad what would that say about you?

Also, someone earlier brought up Ydarsse's interactions with dunn, what do you make of them and how does it affect your read on dunn?

[ready2rock]

Previous post is to Blair if that wasn't clear

@Dunn, do you have some substantial reason/case for voting Blair? Because it's feeling pretty OMGUS to me right now

[midwaybear]

yeah, why is Blair scummy?

[Blair]

I am only as confident as the information I am getting from you guys

I don't like this.

Retracting intent.

He's counter-claiming without telling us his role

or

taking any responsibility for the outcome.

I'd rather launch Dunnstral today and let the PR claims self-sort.

I mean you held this opinion even after the claims came out, so if I'd come out looking bad what would that say about you?

Also, someone earlier brought up Ydarsse's interactions with dunn, what do you make of them and how does it affect your read on dunn?

Of all the ways scum could try to set themselves up to un-bus, that would have to be the worst.

My progression there was clear and reasonable: I asked him a reasonable question (for which my preferred answer was clear), he gave the wrong answer anyway, and I lowered my confidence in his counterclaim accordingly.

If the above was my genius scum Master Plan™ to un-bus my partner, it was awfully risky given that he could have mucked it up by answering with the confidence I was asking him for.

Scum comes up with their own out there (like you did), they don't leave themselves at the mercy of a Town PR to give them one.

[ready2rock]

@blair I mean sure you can launch me tomorrow if this doesn’t flip red lol. I’ve told you I’m a full Neapolitan Gunsmith or Cop. I don’t really understand setup spec. What else do you need from me

So this went unresponded to and wasn't good enough for you, apparently

Mini Normal 1919

Moderator:

ThinkBig

Current Update:

Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:

1. SergTacos,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 2
   
2. Klazam,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
3. Trivium,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
4. Umlaut
   replaced Boonskiies
   ,
   Town Odd-Night Cop
   , lynched day 4
   
5. TwoFace,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
6. Empiricus,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
7. Mulch,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
8. Carcalilly,
   Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
   , killed night 1
   
9. Tchill13,
   Mafia Goon
   , lynched day 1
   
10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
    
11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
    
12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
    
13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3

This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?

And this was followed a few posts later by you trying to get momentum on a counter-wagon going

I'd still like my second question answered btw about Dunn

[CantHateAPuppy]

I made 4 posts in between this

So I guess yeah, the progression looks pretty weak if you take away, y'know, any context of a progression

For the record, I didn't have her read as scum based on the content of her posts at all, nothing really jumped out to me (aside from what I said at 387, which wasn't clear cut enough to me to sway me to a vote), so I don't think I would've voted her if it hadn't been for IV counter claiming

And to answer your question earlier, I think off wagon is more likely, mostly because I read most of the people on wagon as town atm, while the people off wagon have largely been null to scum for me

I admit that all I did was ctrl-f your iso for "Ydrasse," but I don't see anything else that shows much more of a progression. Blair's point about you v Dunn feels good too. This post has an edge of too much defense in it, and I'm trying to decide if that's town or not

[CantHateAPuppy]

Now thinking Blair and Dunn are talking past each other, which is not the same as declaring they're TvT, but I'm not sure that's an argument I'm willing to let the whole day be spent on

[ready2rock]

I made 4 posts in between this

So I guess yeah, the progression looks pretty weak if you take away, y'know, any context of a progression

For the record, I didn't have her read as scum based on the content of her posts at all, nothing really jumped out to me (aside from what I said at 387, which wasn't clear cut enough to me to sway me to a vote), so I don't think I would've voted her if it hadn't been for IV counter claiming

And to answer your question earlier, I think off wagon is more likely, mostly because I read most of the people on wagon as town atm, while the people off wagon have largely been null to scum for me

I admit that all I did was ctrl-f your iso for "Ydrasse," but I don't see anything else that shows much more of a progression. Blair's point about you v Dunn feels good too. This post has an edge of too much defense in it, and I'm trying to decide if that's town or not

I explained the progression in my last post, but I'll state it again if it wasn't clear. I was definitely in the camp of Dunn looking scummier, and wanting to push for him to be launched, and probably would've continued to be until the end of the day (as evidenced by my next two posts). Then, the cc happened and was very believable to me, and that made me have to rethink my readings and decide what I thought was the best thing to do, and eventually I decided that not hammering would open the floodgates for some last second flash wagon to try to go on someone, which would have close to zero chance of actually catching someone, and so I liked the chances of IV telling the truth and Ydarsse being successfully cc'ed better.

I think the reason it might feel off to you is because my vote was not really based much on my read of Ydarsse herself, and more on everything surrounding it

[Blair]

I'd still like my second question answered btw about Dunn

The only interaction between Dunnstral and Ydrasse that I consider noteworthy at this point is when Dunnstral stated intent to hammer on Ydrasse - but Ydrasse claimed Cop two posts later so it really just doubles down my confirmation bias that it looked coordinated.

[Blair]

(Remember he tried to grab town cred afterward because he claimed scum!Dunn would have quickhammered Ydrasse - now that we know Ydrasse was scum, I suggest those of you who granted him town points for that promptly revoke them)

[Nosferatu]

lmao all this to leave dunn to lurk to victory

that seems losing by force im ngl

[Dunnstral]

Previous post is to Blair if that wasn't clear

@Dunn, do you have some substantial reason/case for voting Blair? Because it's feeling pretty OMGUS to me right now

yeah, why is Blair scummy?

Her push isn't something she believes in

And she's seen me as scum before

[Blair]

Supposing for a moment that you actually were innocent.

Your argument is, "Blair couldn't possibly misread me like this."

[CantHateAPuppy]

But I could!

[Nosferatu]

apathy kicking town ass rn

also ngl reading this game feels like i'm looking at a blob of "meh" with a few light trs (hi inno, hi blair) thrown in there which makes parsing through it all feel like my brain is turning into goo. i don't know what that means mafia is doing other than either blending in or just... not playing right now which means we're all kind of half-heartedly pointing fingers at each other hoping something sticks.

that sentiment implicates nosferatu, dunn and r2r if going off of like, strictly numbers. of them i like nosferatu the most bc of that dunn/blair thing. i think r2r isn't look the best but i vibed with some of their points regarding bm thus the unvote. i don't think it's foolproof like they are town 100% of the time but i can follow their logic without having to twist and reach for it so i don't wanna vote them rn

peepin the meh block aka {launchy, midway, goon, battle mage}

Vote Count 1.11

Ydrasse

(3): midwaybear, innocentvillager, Nosferatu

Dunnstral

(2): Blair, ready2rock

Blair

(2): Dunnstral, Mafia Goon

Mafia Goon

(1): Ydrasse

midwaybear

(1): CantLynchAPuppy

Not voting

(1): Battle Mage

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to launch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-08-04 23:30:00)

Vote Count 1.13 (FINAL)

Ydrasse

(6): innocentvillager, Nosferatu, Mafia Goon, midwaybear, Battle Mage, ready2rock

Blair

(1): Dunnstral

Mafia Goon

(1): Ydrasse

midwaybear

(1): CantLynchAPuppy, Blair

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to launch.

wagonomics say its the kidd
VOTE: battle mage

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Nosferatu

V/LA for weekend

oh haha omgus