Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Raven Branwen]

i hope you feel better soon!

and i still feel like ur initial tl on me was quite suspect, tbh

Ty but I honestly don’t see why because when I first repped into the game, I thought that duckling was like 78% scum, I don’t think that anymore because

he has made a compelling case and since dialed down his push on you but hasn’t changed his vote to anyone else.

I still think you sound more sincere here than in those two games he linked but then I remember that att, I locktown read you in tm.

I’m somewhat paranoid about your unwillingness to push tw, because it’s “unpleasant”. When do you think that it would ever be pleasant? And now you’re linking me and Alsus? Based on what exactly? What pings me is that you didn’t say you have independent reasons for sr us both but that you thought we were buddies, when you earlier posted that you were suspicious of all of the you/Aldus scumreads. how do you not see the obvious contradiction in doing that to me?

Raven, can you explain why the bolded makes duck town? what about it is town indicative to you?

He cited examples of scum!Skitter’s play in two games that was very different than what I know of her scum meta. Because she doesn’t want to vote him for some reason which makes 0 sense to me. I don’t know anymore, I just know that she’s pushing a mislynch on me for bad reasons but I guess she could just be wrong town doing it too. She literally did the exact same thing to me in that game we fought about in our Lunacy PT. Her push on me is wrongheaded but I can’t ignore the obvious sincerity behind it. Sorry Skitter. :/

UNVOTE:

sorry, I don't feel like this really answered my question, which was why duck pushing skitt less and still voting her is towny to you?

I guess because initially it looked to me that his push came our of nowhere and it lookee kind of forced to me, so when he backed off, it looked like what he would do as town because in Starcraft he went straight from hard driving my mislynch to outright buddying me, so if he suddenly started doing that to Skitter, I would then probably sr him for that. And in Starcraft, his reasons for pushing me unlike Skitter were beyond ludicrous. Here he gave valid reasons, so I’m still not sure but I don’t want Skitter to be executed today, because he might be wrong. I have been fooled by wrong tonal reads before but I can’t in good faith vote her today even if it means I die, which I obviously hope doesn’t happen.

[Raven Branwen]

skitt, can you talk about what your read on bugspray was through the game?

Townie
Part of the read was cuz you werent scumreading him, and i wasnt thinking about it too much

Then raven repped in and i think she's actively scummy

You thought too in that game we fought about, remember? You were constantly pushing me in that but I was town in that too.

[Datisi]

i really don't get the point of using an alt in order to avoid people making ""bad"" meta reads on you, but then constantly talking about meta *and* telling people to meta check you

[Raven Branwen]

i really don't get the point of using an alt in order to avoid people making ""bad"" meta reads on you, but then constantly talking about meta *and* telling people to meta check you

I got called “toxic” in a game recently because a player lock scumread me based on completing misconstruing my meta and I didn’t exactly handle it too well. Because it’s literally the only way I can prove Skitter’s reasoning for sr me is NAI. Skitter, SS, duckling, you apparently all can check my meta. If your point is playing under a secret alt allows me some degree of control how my meta is read, I won’t deny that but you know what, since I’ve been doing that what literally happened to me in two games - I was wrongly lock scumread based on bad meta reads hasn’t happened and as I said earlier, I’d much rather be mislynched than called “toxic”.

[Raven Branwen]

@dsjstr would also like reads from you please

I'm fairly certain it is Aldu/skit, they try to get a miselim today we probably go back to aldu tomorrow, since Aldu town read me and skit you will miselim me d3 and skit tries to get another miselim d4 to win.

This however is what prompted me to unvote Skitter. Too many people are pushing this narrative which means it’s probably wrong. That the scumteam is very unlikely to be Aldus/Skitter.

[lilith2013]

it doesn't help to be patronizing towards me..

[Raven Branwen]

@dsjstr would also like reads from you please

I'm fairly certain it is Aldu/skit, they try to get a miselim today we probably go back to aldu tomorrow, since Aldu town read me and skit you will miselim me d3 and skit tries to get another miselim d4 to win.

This however is what prompted me to unvote Skitter. Too many people are pushing this narrative which means it’s probably wrong. That the scumteam is very unlikely to be Aldus/Skitter.

I’ve played enough games to realize that it’s rarely that easy and since she had good takes in Lunacy, I think it would be a really bad idea to risk it if we’re wrong.

[Raven Branwen]

it doesn't help to be patronizing towards me..

How was I doing that? You know she thought she was scum in Lunacy on D1 right, so the question struck me as funny but I meant no disrespect.

[lilith2013]

Does someone else have an opinion on duck/skitter that can maybe like, help unfog my brain

Well there’s Skitter’s obviously scummy play on D1 of Lunacy which you locktowned her for while wrongly believing you were scum there. I’m seriously hoping you wouldn’t have done that as town but because you wrongly thought you were scum in that, I have no meta in which to parse you. I like you bettter than yoir predecessor here, so at least that’s a start anyway.

My point being,if it’s not already obvious is that Skitter’s D1 play here is clearly different than in Lunacy, so I’m kind of baffled how she’s duckling‘s #1 sr here.

"I hope you didn't actually townread skitter"
"no offense but it was so obvious she was scum. you're not actually asking why she was scummy, right?"
yeah. I read those as patronizing.

[Datisi]

i lowkey think raven is being towny in a weird way and i don't know what to think

[lilith2013]

explain please?

[lilith2013]

I guess because initially it looked to me that his push came our of nowhere and it lookee kind of forced to me, so when he backed off, it looked like what he would do as town because in Starcraft he went straight from hard driving my mislynch to outright buddying me, so if he suddenly started doing that to Skitter, I would then probably sr him for that. And in Starcraft, his reasons for pushing me unlike Skitter were beyond ludicrous. Here he gave valid reasons, so I’m still not sure but I don’t want Skitter to be executed today, because he might be wrong. I have been fooled by wrong tonal reads before but I can’t in good faith vote her today even if it means I die, which I obviously hope doesn’t happen.

so you're townreading duck.. because he didn't do

exactly

the same thing that he did as scum in another game? that like, assumes that players always behave exactly the same as scum which I don't agree with whatsoever.

[Raven Branwen]

Does someone else have an opinion on duck/skitter that can maybe like, help unfog my brain

Well there’s Skitter’s obviously scummy play on D1 of Lunacy which you locktowned her for while wrongly believing you were scum there. I’m seriously hoping you wouldn’t have done that as town but because you wrongly thought you were scum in that, I have no meta in which to parse you. I like you bettter than yoir predecessor here, so at least that’s a start anyway.

My point being,if it’s not already obvious is that Skitter’s D1 play here is clearly different than in Lunacy, so I’m kind of baffled how she’s duckling‘s #1 sr here.

"I hope you didn't actually townread skitter"
"no offense but it was so obvious she was scum. you're not actually asking why she was scummy, right?"
yeah. I read those as patronizing.

Again sorry, I honestly meant no disrespect.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

should I read this lunacy thing

i really find it hard to follow what you are all saying about that game

[Raven Branwen]

I guess because initially it looked to me that his push came our of nowhere and it lookee kind of forced to me, so when he backed off, it looked like what he would do as town because in Starcraft he went straight from hard driving my mislynch to outright buddying me, so if he suddenly started doing that to Skitter, I would then probably sr him for that. And in Starcraft, his reasons for pushing me unlike Skitter were beyond ludicrous. Here he gave valid reasons, so I’m still not sure but I don’t want Skitter to be executed today, because he might be wrong. I have been fooled by wrong tonal reads before but I can’t in good faith vote her today even if it means I die, which I obviously hope doesn’t happen.

so you're townreading duck.. because he didn't do

exactly

the same thing that he did as scum in another game? that like, assumes that players always behave exactly the same as scum which I don't agree with whatsoever.

It would really help me a lot if he gave a read on me, then I would really have a confident read on him, one way or another.

Yes, that’s definitely possible. I think it was his “I’m afraid you’re reading me wrong” thing that made me lean towards that but I suppose it would be naive of me to 100% rule out a possible pocket. Hell, I was pocketed by flaming obvscum!Dunn in Lunacy, which is why getting his read on me is so super important, because I know how town!him would answer.

[Raven Branwen]

should I read this lunacy thing

i really find it hard to follow what you are all saying about that game

Well first thing is the title was apt. Town all thought they were scum on D1 because we all got werewolf role PMs and poor Lillith and Starbuck were mislead in thinking their hood partners were the same faction, except for the informed minority, mafiosos - the real scum. It’s a fun read anyhow.

[Alduskkel]

Did skitter just completely drop her TW scumread?

[Datisi]

look what y'all have done to my poor triangle

at this rate the scumteam is gonna end up being s_s/lilith because this game is a game

[Alduskkel]

why am I at the top of oh god oh fuck I don't know?

[Datisi]

necause my read on you is currently oh god oh fuck i don't know

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will get to the nice part of datisi's pyramid come hell or high water

[Datisi]

shhh you are doing better

in other news, i looked at some of bugs's completed games (both town and scum, both first-hand and second-hand meta), and i don't know how to explain my feelings there. like, the best i know how to say it is, in games where bugs was scum, i would get a "!!!" ding in my head when they'd post, and i didn't get that "!!!" ding when they were town. this is like, the ultimate gut read that i cannot put into words and i do not know its accuracy.

[Alduskkel]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are doing better

you'll love me more after aldus flips red

[Alduskkel]

i'm actually really scared that if i don't get eliminated today then we'll eliminate someone green and then i just get eliminated day 2, which is even worse