Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Nono]

VOTE: villager
VOTE: villager
VOTE: villager
VOTE: villager
VOTE: villager

was villager all along, good job me

[Almost50]

if not id like to point out that days with even number of ppl are more scary than days with odd number of ppl because there's no chain dunking possible in the odd case

That's what I said. I actually did ask Ruby and sje pointed out it was in the riles that once a dunk was reached any further votes won't count until the flip is shown, so you can\t dunk all 3 wagons at once. However (like you pointed out) if we were at an even number of players that dunk is enough to get both other wagons dunked, provided the first dunkee isn't voting either of them.

[Nono]

VOTE: element
phone dying, glhf? let me hammer again, I’ll be funnier xD

[innocentvillager]

yes hammer

[innocentvillager]

HAHAHAH ninja’d

[Nono]

VOTE: villager
kbai~~~~~

[innocentvillager]

that vote doesn’t count

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 4.Final

Target	Wagon
Elements (GOT EM)	Casey, Hiraki, Marksman, Raya36, innocentvillager, Nono
Almost50 (L-2)	Chemical Elements, Nono, Elements, Raya36
Lavender (L-2)	Chemical Elements, Isis, Elements, Hiraki
Raya36 (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey
innocentvillager (L-3)	Lavender, Isis, Nono
Hiraki (L-4)	Marksman, Casey
Casey (L-4)	Isis, Chemical Elements
Nono (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Marksman (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Chemical Elements (L-5)	Hiraki
Not Voting (1)	Almost50

With 11 alive, it's 6 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-17 07:18:59) until the plague hits.

[Ruby Red]

Elements WAS DUNKED ON, HE WAS A

VANILLA TOWNIE

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 5.0

Target	Wagon
Almost50 (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Nono, Raya36
Lavender (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Isis, Hiraki
Raya36 (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey
innocentvillager (L-3)	Lavender, Isis, Nono
Hiraki (L-4)	Marksman, Casey
Casey (L-4)	Isis, Chemical Elements
Nono (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Marksman (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Chemical Elements (L-5)	Hiraki
Not Voting (2)	Almost50, innocentvillager

With 10 alive, it's 6 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-17 08:18:59) until dinosaurs roam the Earth.

Time added.

[Almost50]

I kinda don't like Nono, or rather don't understand her play. She came in voting IV (who had just voted Elements). then hammered Elements.

@Nono: If you SR IV, why hammer the guy he put @L-1??

[Almost50]

In fact, why hammer the guy >I< was going to hammer (given that you think I "haven't seen green pm")??!

[Nono]

what’s not to understand? there was a hammer, I took it. to clarify, I still want you two gone, just a beginner, not good at persuasion etc, lack of skills? maybe. just hoping others will drink the water from the river I led them to)

clone/villager/red pm guy?/open wolf? lavender? gg
VOTE: villager

[innocentvillager]

I think we should slow down the dunks now and talk for a bit. Maybe no dunking for 24 hrs or so

[innocentvillager]

anyways this is all within the realm of normal possibility.

[Raya36]

Okay, Raya. You need to look at the reasons I scumread Wey for and determine whether they were legitimate or fabricated ones for a planned bus.

Will do

As far as your first vote on him goes it was the first vote on the wagon aside from inno's vote which doesn't really count.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you scumread him for finding players who haven't posted yet to be suspicious. You questioned him about this which means you were giving him a chance.

You said we should dunk around now when Wey was tied at D-2 and you specifically said you'd be fine with Wey being dunked as well as someone much farther from being dunked. So clearly if you're partners with Wey there was 0 intent of trying to save him. You were off the wagon for a bit and stopped mentioning him so maybe you realized there'd be no saving him and the towncred was better than helping him live.

Then from there you were committed to his dunk as he was the top on your list of who you wanted to dunk next.

Tell me why you couldn't have just been early distancing from Wey then later when he was essentially destined to be dunked bussing him?

You said something about page 15 making you put inno down as town, and Marksman down as scum. Could you go into that?

To clarify it wasn't solely page 15. It just happened to be when I was reading 15 that I felt more confident even unrelated since I was thinking about the past pages as well.

For Inno:
-I had been agreeing with most of what he said
-He was pushing for more activity page 15
-His take in 358 seems more like something scum would turn into a scumread. Not townread them for it. I strongly think that was a more town approach to that read
-359 is good too. Maybe biased since it's my slot and I know I'm town but the fact that he defended a highly voted wagon that's conftown to me when as scum he could have just let it get eliminated. Especially in this set-up. He also continues to defend my slot.

For Marksman:
-Honestly mainly tonal
-Also biased that you keep fighting for my slot to be dunked this page and arguing with Inno who is a pretty strong townread for me
-I disagree with you saying pressure votes don't work
-You also say in 366 that Inno is a bit towny but then have him as number 3 in your dunk list.

[Marksman]

There's quite a few flaws in that, Raya. Like, I wasn't fighting for spicer to be dunked, I was arguing his one post wasn't towny. I was saying pressure votes

do

work, not don't. I didn't say my overall read o inno was towny in 366, I said he did something towny, which raised him from top scumread to no.3 scumread.
I'll address other stuff like the Wey thing when I'm not on mobile.

Agree we should slow it down btw

I'll respond properly

[Marksman]

I brainslipped

Nono, why is he a guiltyvillager?

[Marksman]

VOTE: Chemical Elements

Hydraulic press vote

[Raya36]

I think we should slow down the dunks now and talk for a bit. Maybe no dunking for 24 hrs or so

I agree with this


But can Nono be next? Don't like the push on you

[Raya36]

There's quite a few flaws in that, Raya. Like, I wasn't fighting for spicer to be dunked, I was arguing his one post wasn't towny. I was saying pressure votes

do

work, not don't. I didn't say my overall read o inno was towny in 366, I said he did something towny, which raised him from top scumread to no.3 scumread.
I'll address other stuff like the Wey thing when I'm not on mobile.

Agree we should slow it down btw

I'll respond properly

Ok that was a pretty bad reread. Scratch the pressure vote thing, and the part about Spicer. Probably took that as more than what it was since it's my slot.
As for Inno I still think that if you're going to find something towny enough to state then you should probably remove them from your dunk list until you've done a full reevaluation.

[innocentvillager]

Mm, still disagree that what's spicer's done is town-indicative, but I can see why you'd believe it.

I think inno arguing down a lhf dunk counterwagon with reasoning he seems to believe is a little towny?

I want to dunk one of these 3 today:
Wey
Elem
Inno

In that order of preference.

I don’t think scum!marksman is likely to admit I’m towny for my plausible thought process which he disagrees with but still admit I’m in his top 3 pool, it looks inconsistent at first glance but it’s perfectly plausible from a townie mindset

[Raya36]

Ok fine UNVOTE: Marksman

[innocentvillager]

raya why is that scummy from marksman? Why is scum!marksman more likely to openly admit I did something towny but still state that I’m in his pool, it kind of looks inconsistent

He could’ve easily just not said it was towny

[innocentvillager]

i tend to repeat myself sorry I’ll try to minimize that for easier reading