Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

[BananaCucho]

I think it was referring to me not bothering with their questions to me a while back.

@Jackel

There are a lot of other players in the game, talk to me, help me figure out what's going on here. The game is blown wide open, pretty much anyone is on the table for lynch today with a mafia flip

Town should be ecstatic, so if you are town please work with us here, because from the surface it looks like you're just rolling over in defeat

[Jackel98]

I am ecstatic. I am also at work.

[BananaCucho]

One of Bell's last actions was to jump off of Porkens (when they were at 4 votes) onto Starbuck (who had 1). We were getting pretty close to EOD

Note that during this DD also "holds up the wagon" on Porkens as Norwee puts it, but we don't have a flip yet on Porkens/DD so I'm just looking at Bell rn

Spoiler: Bell/Porkens

VC 2.3

Porkens (3): catboi, Bell, redtea
androgybee (2): Porkens, NorwegianboyEE
Starbuck (1): Dumb and Dumber
NorwegianboyEE (1): Jackel98

Not Voting (3): androgybee, BananaCucho, Starbuck

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-11 21:00:00)

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to eliminate

I don't find the doubled cleric claim to be inherently scummy, imo; I think they can both be town

I think that androgybee has managed to claim in just about the scummiest way possible but gun-to-head I'd say they're probably town? But they certainly aren't helping things

I think it's possible that people got corrupted last night but didn't know it - iirc the OP says that people will only be alerted to a *net* corruption change. IE if their corruption gains and losses cancel each other out, they won't be alerted. like a +1 corruption and -1 corruption won't be announced since there's no net change.

So I don't think it's possible to fully track all of the corruption getting passed about.

Nothing about this massclaim has made me want to vote outside of porkens/Star

- Dumber

androgybee (2): Porkens, NorwegianboyEE

EWWW, i'm on the same wagon as Porkens.
VOTE: Porkens

Just Porkens, Catboi and Starbuck left

So far my opinion hasn't really changed from voting one of Starbuck/Porkens today, not really

Tbh, I'm leaning more toward Starbuck than Porkens rn, because I can at least point towards stuff that I find unique in porken's post that could come from town.

VOTE: Starbuck

After that Bell doesn't post much up to their death, and then things become about Bee. Idk, I'm more inclined to think if we had to choose between Starbuck/Porkens I'd still pick Porkens

[BananaCucho]

I am ecstatic. I am also at work.

Great, we have 4 days, lets smash some scum! When you get the chance, can you let me know what your reads are, if anything has changed since the Bell flip?

[Starbuck]

Reading through on my lunch break real quick.

On bee's point about bringing up Banana as a possible 3P, I don't think it's scummy to consider every possible angle that we might be up against. It was something I was tossing about in my head for awhile and figured it was pertinent to bring to the table. I figure that I'm probably wrong, but I'd rather bring forth my thoughts than sit on them.

The thing about Porkens claim tho is that scum can have that role, testing them means nothing probably since it doesn't confirm their alignment

This was my thought, as well.

just like, the confidence he's holding himself with. it reminds me a bit of some scum norway ive seen.

I haven't played with him before (I don't think), but this is where my hold up is that I've previously mentioned.



Okay, so I read Bell wrong all this time. That was a fantastic hit on androgy's part and I'm sorry for doubting them. So yeah, big reevaluation time now.

Bee is kinda lowkey mvp here too for killing a player they thought they were saving lmao

No shit, right?

[BananaCucho]

Looking through Jackel's ISO, she's only voted Norwee (3 times) and myself (once) this game O.o

[Starbuck]

I will say that the 3P could also NOT be Banana, but I don't think discrediting the possibility to be particularly helpful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hate town players that tunnel the same person across days without considering alternatives. Really hoping Jackel’s just scum here. Cus if town then they really aren’t putting in any effort at all into this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I played with Battle Mage in Lovers mafia open 787. We were both town. He voted me day 1, kept saying i was conf!scum and didn’t care about anyone else. I call him scum along with the actual scum. Then i flip town and the bastard blames me for town losing the game.

[Starbuck]

I played with Battle Mage in Lovers mafia open 787. We were both town. He voted me day 1, kept saying i was conf!scum and didn’t care about anyone else. I call him scum along with the actual scum. Then i flip town and the bastard blames me for town losing the game.

Sounds like springlullaby in regards to me in The Weakest Link.

[BananaCucho]

Starbuck since you're here, can you talk to me about Bell's flip? Does it change anything in your reads today? I wasn't really sure who you scum read before, I remember you were voting Bee and then said you were gonna dive into Porkens a bit

[catboi]

One of Bell's last actions was to jump off of Porkens (when they were at 4 votes) onto Starbuck (who had 1). We were getting pretty close to EOD

Note that during this DD also "holds up the wagon" on Porkens as Norwee puts it, but we don't have a flip yet on Porkens/DD so I'm just looking at Bell rn

Spoiler: Bell/Porkens

VC 2.3

Porkens (3): catboi, Bell, redtea
androgybee (2): Porkens, NorwegianboyEE
Starbuck (1): Dumb and Dumber
NorwegianboyEE (1): Jackel98

Not Voting (3): androgybee, BananaCucho, Starbuck

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-11 21:00:00)

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to eliminate

I don't find the doubled cleric claim to be inherently scummy, imo; I think they can both be town

I think that androgybee has managed to claim in just about the scummiest way possible but gun-to-head I'd say they're probably town? But they certainly aren't helping things

I think it's possible that people got corrupted last night but didn't know it - iirc the OP says that people will only be alerted to a *net* corruption change. IE if their corruption gains and losses cancel each other out, they won't be alerted. like a +1 corruption and -1 corruption won't be announced since there's no net change.

So I don't think it's possible to fully track all of the corruption getting passed about.

Nothing about this massclaim has made me want to vote outside of porkens/Star

- Dumber

androgybee (2): Porkens, NorwegianboyEE

EWWW, i'm on the same wagon as Porkens.
VOTE: Porkens

Just Porkens, Catboi and Starbuck left

So far my opinion hasn't really changed from voting one of Starbuck/Porkens today, not really

Tbh, I'm leaning more toward Starbuck than Porkens rn, because I can at least point towards stuff that I find unique in porken's post that could come from town.

VOTE: Starbuck

After that Bell doesn't post much up to their death, and then things become about Bee. Idk, I'm more inclined to think if we had to choose between Starbuck/Porkens I'd still pick Porkens

Oh, I completely did not notice that because initially the VC when the mod locked the thread had Bell still on Porkens, which is why I opened the thread by voting for Starbuck before I skimmed Bell's ISO and changed my mind.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Catboi what’s your read on D/D right now?

[BananaCucho]

Idk. Looking through Bell day 2 again, they rally votes for Porkens early. And then jump off near EOD in favor of Starbuck, as the question becomes between Bee/Porkens instead of Starbuck/Porkens

People I don't wanna lynch today: Starbuck, Norwee, Redtea, Catboi

People in POE: DD, Jackel, Porkens

[catboi]

Catboi what’s your read on D/D right now?

Haven't re-evaluated yet but was mildly wary of their insistence on starbuck over other options for most of the day. Will try to look back in a few hours from now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk. Looking through Bell day 2 again, they rally votes for Porkens early. And then jump off near EOD in favor of Starbuck, as the question becomes between Bee/Porkens instead of Starbuck/Porkens

Couldn’t that just be for some other lamisty reason tho?
Although i’m pretty sure Bell entertained me!scum with Porkens for a short while before seemingly scumreading Porkens more. I’ll think about it.

[BananaCucho]

Idk. Looking through Bell day 2 again, they rally votes for Porkens early. And then jump off near EOD in favor of Starbuck, as the question becomes between Bee/Porkens instead of Starbuck/Porkens

Couldn’t that just be for some other lamisty reason tho?
Although i’m pretty sure Bell entertained me!scum with Porkens for a short while before seemingly scumreading Porkens more. I’ll think about it.

Lamisty?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk. Looking through Bell day 2 again, they rally votes for Porkens early. And then jump off near EOD in favor of Starbuck, as the question becomes between Bee/Porkens instead of Starbuck/Porkens

Couldn’t that just be for some other lamisty reason tho?
Although i’m pretty sure Bell entertained me!scum with Porkens for a short while before seemingly scumreading Porkens more. I’ll think about it.

Lamisty?

Yeah, i sometimes distance from the main wagon on town as scum to look good when they flip town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

D/D Porkens is going to be my paranoia scum team right now.

[catboi]

Lamisty?

"Look At Me I'm So Townie"-y

[BananaCucho]

Idk. Looking through Bell day 2 again, they rally votes for Porkens early. And then jump off near EOD in favor of Starbuck, as the question becomes between Bee/Porkens instead of Starbuck/Porkens

Couldn’t that just be for some other lamisty reason tho?
Although i’m pretty sure Bell entertained me!scum with Porkens for a short while before seemingly scumreading Porkens more. I’ll think about it.

Lamisty?

Yeah, i sometimes distance from the main wagon on town as scum to look good when they flip town.

I mean that could be the case, but tbh it looks bad when they were spamming "Vote porkens vote porkens" all day, just to jump off at the end

It makes more sense fmpov as them trying to bus early then save late than push early then try to get cred by jumping off late

I'll reevaluate DD in a bit, gonna get some lunch right now

[BananaCucho]

Lamisty?

"Look At Me I'm So Townie"-y

Man your guy's lexicon is so awesome I want to steal all of these

[NorwegianboyEE]

catch up 1. The bar for Norwee town is so low that he jumped into it merely by playing the game.

townish: Norwe - Joey

I'm wary of having been buddied based on this. And if i were to guess who the second one would be in that case, i'd say D/D over Catboi. Catboi's approach on my slot from scum to townreading me was much more natural than D/D just stating he TR me here:

I also have townpings on NorwegianBoy

[BananaCucho]

catch up 1. The bar for Norwee town is so low that he jumped into it merely by playing the game.

townish: Norwe - Joey

I'm wary of having been buddied based on this. And if i were to guess who the second one would be in that case, i'd say D/D over Catboi. Catboi's approach on my slot from scum to townreading me was much more natural than D/D just stating he TR me here:

I also have townpings on NorwegianBoy

So, something that I've been thinking about

DD was the one who originally called for mass claim today, right? Bell also backed the mass claim iirc. If DD/Bell is a team, I'm wondering why they wanted to mass claim so badly? If DD/Bell is a team, why aren't they content to let today end in a elimination of Starbuck or Porkens?

Which do you think is more likely? (Assuming DD+Bell scum universe) They were 3p hunting with the mass claim as they are afraid of cross kill, or they are trying to save one of Starbuck/Porkens?

[BananaCucho]

I really should put my phone away while I eat lol