Newbie 2019 | Game Over!

[GeorgeBailey]

Game Events

day 1

• word321
  is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 1

• shellyc
  is killing
  SJReaver

day 2

• Porkens
  is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 2

• shellyc
  is killing
  GeniusGamer

day 3

• MiniMegabyte
  is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 3

• shellyc
  is killing
  Redados

day 4

• ItalianoVD
  is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

[GeorgeBailey]

Flavour:
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[GeorgeBailey]

GeorgeBailey

[GeorgeBailey]

Post-Game begins now:

[Porkens]

No, that’s up to you. What I’m saying is that the more we try to analyze and make sense of what doesn’t make sense the more confused we’ll be. I’m not gonna allow myself to do it anymore.

TBone hasn’t done anything scummy up to this point until he allowed Redados to sheep him and then went and killed him. I am leaning towards us both being town so that’s it for me. By all means do your iso for both TBone and I, but I don’t need anymore evidence. If you really are the scum then congratulations. I don’t believe so though.

VOTE: T-Bone

I won’t be changing my vote.

Me neither. This is game over.
VOTE: T-Bone

I won't be changing my vote.

Classic Shelly!

[SJReaver]

You guys didn't kill shelly? I told you she was mafia.

I POSTED A DANCING GIF.

[SJReaver]

And you killed Mini. You are monsters. How could you kill the sweet koala?

[SJReaver]

Shelly, shelly... that was some pro scumplay. You dunked this town so hard Nike wants you to sell their sneakers.

[GeorgeBailey]

Datisi and I agreed that shelly played a very good scum game.

[T-Bone]

Great job Shelly!

[Datisi]

Datisi and I agreed that shelly played a very good scum game.

+1

[word321]

Shelly won DESPITE me and micc, in a volatile 1v7 with a scumread as far as D1. It is no small feat to say that she played an amazing game; I specially liked when she passed as town for not understanding the kill and the such.

[word321]

Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?

[ItalianoVD]

Great game Shelly! Wow.

[SJReaver]

Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?

Ego.

"The super SE is doing a super SE play and I'm going to out-think it!" feels better than "I've miseliminated all my teammates because I've been tricked by a scum playing their first game."

[Redados]

Good game everyone and well-played Shelly!

This was a really fun game and I enjoyed playing with everyone. I've read some other newbie games and this one especially had such a great vibe!

[ItalianoVD]

Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?

Ego.

"The super SE is doing a super SE play and I'm going to out-think it!" feels better than "I've miseliminated all my teammates because I've been tricked by a scum playing their first game."

You’re absolutely right. Ego. Going deeper than that you don’t know who to trust especially in lylo and I had been overthinking everything. That is a HUGE flaw in my game. I overthink. I thought getting more reps in could possibly help, but not sure how to overcome it.

[T-Bone]

If you're town, don't vote first in LimLo. Would have improved it. Should have allowed Shelly to vote for me first.

Other than that, don't get down on yourself. I should have made it a point to explain why this was a good final 3 for scum!Shelly. And not let her get into my blindspot. Ah well no big deal.

I think all you newbies played great, whether you were with us for a single day or through most of the game. I hope to see you in other games on site, whether it be more newbie games, or in other queues.

[ItalianoVD]

If you're town, don't vote first in LimLo. Would have improved it. Should have allowed Shelly to vote for me first.

Other than that, don't get down on yourself. I should have made it a point to explain why this was a good final 3 for scum!Shelly. And not let her get into my blindspot. Ah well no big deal.

I think all you newbies played great, whether you were with us for a single day or through most of the game. I hope to see you in other games on site, whether it be more newbie games, or in other queues.

Thanks. Appreciate the help as always man. I will definitely take everything you and Porkens said (sorry Porkens) to heart. Do you or does anyone have any pointers or ideas for overthinking?

[T-Bone]

Nah dude, I over do it as town all the time. You didn't do anything really wrong, except thinking that you were gonna follow through on the death pact. That's about it.

I think what will help you long term, is not getting rattled if people read you as scum. It's gonna happen. If you let it get to you, it wastes time, and gets you off your game. When people scumread me, I don't spend a lot of time addressing it. I will continue to play my game instead and let the playerlist come to their own conclusions. I feel if I'm town, it'll shine through with my play, and if I'm scum, well I can make my town play shine through. I can't do either of those things though if I'm arguing with someone over scumreading me.

By that same token, I don't argue with people I scumread either. That's not productive in my opinion. I do subscribe to the theory that not every post a player makes is alignment indicative, and arguments aren't alignment indicative, therefore, I feel it is counter productive.

I'm not saying you should model your play after me or anything. You do what you feel works for you. If that means reading completed games to read someone, go for it. What works for me works for me in part because most players aren't doing the same things I'm doing. And I have blindspots too because of the way I play.

Really I'd like you to take away from this is a) always trust your own alignment and don't feel like you should ever need to self-sacrifice and B) know when it is time to move on from a line of posting.

[GeniusGamer]

Wow, that was some good scum play from Shelly! Congrats to you, Micc and Word!

[ItalianoVD]

Nah dude, I over do it as town all the time. You didn't do anything really wrong, except thinking that you were gonna follow through on the death pact. That's about it.

I think what will help you long term, is not getting rattled if people read you as scum. It's gonna happen. If you let it get to you, it wastes time, and gets you off your game. When people scumread me, I don't spend a lot of time addressing it. I will continue to play my game instead and let the playerlist come to their own conclusions. I feel if I'm town, it'll shine through with my play, and if I'm scum, well I can make my town play shine through. I can't do either of those things though if I'm arguing with someone over scumreading me.

By that same token, I don't argue with people I scumread either. That's not productive in my opinion. I do subscribe to the theory that not every post a player makes is alignment indicative, and arguments aren't alignment indicative, therefore, I feel it is counter productive.

I'm not saying you should model your play after me or anything. You do what you feel works for you. If that means reading completed games to read someone, go for it. What works for me works for me in part because most players aren't doing the same things I'm doing. And I have blindspots too because of the way I play.

Really I'd like you to take away from this is a) always trust your own alignment and don't feel like you should ever need to self-sacrifice and B) know when it is time to move on from a line of posting.

That’s great insight. Really. I appreciate it. I especially like the premise of not arguing if 1) you know your alignment (provided you’re town) and 2) you feel someone is scum. It does waste time and clouds you from seeing things clearly. Thanks again. Awesome game. Thanks for running it George. Beans are uhh... they’re great.

[GeniusGamer]

Beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you catch scum!

[ItalianoVD]

Beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you catch scum!

Love it.

[JacksonVirgo]

Heyo, was watching this game from the shadows. Seriously thought T-Bone was the scum for a while, shelly smashed this game.
Also rip mini