Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

[Starbuck]

I'd like her to elaborate on DD when she gets a chance because I've been hung up on that slot, too.

[BananaCucho]

Porkens: *Does nothing except tunnel the same read for an eternity. Never explaining much other than that he "feels" this is scum*

= is scumread by many players.

Porkens: *Shocked Pikachu face*

Jackel please answer this

@Jackelgator, when you are back can you answer me a question please? Could you explain your vote on me? I shrugged if off earlier, but when I was going through your ISO I found these posts:

Spoiler: Jackelgator

I'm also concerned that Jackal jumped aboard that because I try to think the best of folks when there are longer than usual absences, which is why I stood up for her when folks went after her for the same thing yesterday. I also think androgybee's late entrance to Day 2 and shade of me (when they haven't even tried to be around) is hypocritical.

For the record, I don't think you're scum; I was just confused by Porkens thinking I had a TR on you. You're mostly null? I generally agree with your reads, and you don't mesh well with my top SRs. I just agreed that lurking can be a good strategy for scum to fly under the radar.

I can't remember who said it day 1, but eventually we're just gonna have to get some courage to vote a less active player, unless you want to vote an active player. Which imo is a bad idea right now because literally all scum has to do this game is target the rest of the active players at night and lurk the game into a victory, because after finding out Bell is a fruit vendor I'm not voting them and

I highly doubt that both DD+Norwee are scum

Why? Is it more that you townread them independently (so you think it's statistically unlikely that both would flip town), or that you have a specific reason for you thinking that those two wouldn't be scum together?\

@Bell

Give me fruit again tonight. If I die (very likely) I take the corruption with me.

That really doesn't sound like a good idea. Then scum can just kill someone else, since you'd be dead anyways.

OK so I really thought I sent the above at like 12:44 but apparently I didn't.

It's starting to feel really scummy how people like Jackel and Starbuck are scumread for bad content/bad posts yet they keep framing it as if they're being pushed for "inactivity" (even though that is also a point against them) and trying to vote active players.

Do you think only inactive players should be pushed right now? Also, that's not my main reason for SRing you. It's that I can't find any substance beyond the inactivity behind your reads, and you haven't responded once when I asked for some.

Jackel, did you end up looking into Joey's townreads?

Not really, tbh? I tried to work it out, but it was just a mass of WIFOM. Like, I scumread NEE. I can build a narrative in my head for why NEE would kill Joey (lock in Joey's TR on him, throw suspicion on his SRs), but that's really just confirmation bias.

And I only have 1 corruption rn, if I get a 2nd corruption I won't die. I was able to cancel my self harm action with Dunn.

I mean, it'd probably be better for a generally scumread person to take it, especially one who doesn't have any corruption yet, imo?

UNVOTE: NEE
I'm gonna do it
VOTE: BananaCucho

From what I can see, you seemed to show concern for me taking the fruit from Bell again, assuming that I would die, and that that would be a bad thing. So I just need to clear up this point, thanks

I think I should ISO myself and see what questions I've asked people that they haven't answered -_- I'm sure there's 100+ for Porkens alone

Fine. In the first quote, I was saying that, assuming you were dying anyways, it would be a bad strategy. I also thought you had used your ability and had two corruption, not one, so the one fruit would kill you. I thought scum would just get a free kill.

In the second quote, I think it's pretty obvious that I was suggesting that I get the fruit. Since we've claimed, I can say that I am a VT, so I don't have as much utility besides being a corruption sponge, tbh. Granted, having seen how the scums' corruption works, this looks sus in retrospect.

The third quote was shortly after I'd seen Norwee's claim and decided you might be better statistically. I'd had suspicions you were a 3p, and the cleric claim lessened my suspicions of him in the moment. However, the Bell flip and the showing of how his corruption worked, plus his consume corruption ability, was enough to tip it back to NEE. You're still on my radar, though. I find it really weird that you didn't read your role all the way through, considering it seems pretty neat, and asking for corruption while you already have one corruption

and

have a PR power that gives corruption to yourself seems suspicious imo.

Jackel, why are you voting Norwee over Redtea? I've seen both you and Redtea ask about "safeclaims" but I finally google'd that - from the mafiascum wiki it seems that safeclaims aren't cc'd by town. So if its a safeclaim, it's one that both Redtea+Norwee are taking advantage of. Plus Redtea claimed after Norwee did, so logically shouldn't your vote be on Redtea?

I don't scum read your logic for this post, I think its very good just the vote is in the wrong place

Finally, as far as your concerns about me asking for corruption, that's fair - however 1st, I have an ability that I can use multiple times a day, and it extends the day, to receive corruption. If I was team demon and simply wanted corruption and didn't die from it, I would have used it multiple times by now.

Lastly, I ask your patience, for after I (likely) die, it will make sense. And if I don't die... trust me it will eventually make sense lol

Let's work together if you're town shall we?

@Starbuck let's see what you pull from DD

[BananaCucho]

I thought I said this before the quote, but I guess I forgot to:

"Okay, I went back and reread this post by Jackel, and I'm against her elimination today again. In fact, I think that Norwee/Redtea should target someone else if Porkens flips scum, but not sure who that is yet" - Banana

[BananaCucho]

Btw none of this changes about flipping Porkens today imo

Their constant defense of Jackel is probably just whiteknighting, I can see Porkens tryna pocket Jackel

[Starbuck]

I can see Porkens tryna pocket Jackel

This was my thought.

I've tried to see what everyone found so scummy about her, but I just plain don't see it.

[Starbuck]

Yeah, so I'm good with Porkens.

I'd like to be on the wagon and avoid Corruption. I'm currently at 0, so 1 isn't going to hurt if I have to hammer.

[Starbuck]

I mean, I guess it doesn't matter either way. I'd need to be the E-1 vote to wholly avoid right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Okay, I went back and reread this post by Jackel, and I'm against her elimination today again. In fact, I think that Norwee/Redtea should target someone else if Porkens flips scum, but not sure who that is yet" - Banana

DD then?

[BananaCucho]

"Okay, I went back and reread this post by Jackel, and I'm against her elimination today again. In fact, I think that Norwee/Redtea should target someone else if Porkens flips scum, but not sure who that is yet" - Banana

DD then?

I think that's fair

[Porkens]

Yeah, so I'm good with Porkens.

I'd like to be on the wagon and avoid Corruption. I'm currently at 0, so 1 isn't going to hurt if I have to hammer.

I’m aNull but you are “good with it”?

Please turn on your brain, HELLO?! The scum are screaming out loud.

VOTE: notwee this is correct.

[BananaCucho]

Yeah, so I'm good with Porkens.

I'd like to be on the wagon and avoid Corruption. I'm currently at 0, so 1 isn't going to hurt if I have to hammer.

I’m aNull but you are “good with it”?

Please turn on your brain, HELLO?! The scum are screaming out loud.

VOTE: notwee this is correct.

If you are voting a Cleric claim, why Norwee over Redtea? Please world build for me. Same with Jackel. How is Norwee scum and Redtea town?

[Porkens]

I don’t give a shit about claims this is the correct read based on play.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t give a shit about claims this is the correct read based on play.

Lel

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd retort more cleverly, but it might make Starbuck cry.
So i'll leave it at that.

[BananaCucho]

I mean claims are an important part of the puzzle

A big reason why Jackel voted me was due to my claim, disregarding my play

And you Porkens voted Bee when they claimed IC, saying it didn't fit, even tho you had no scum read on them whatsoever

VOTE: Porkens

Whatever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Porkens is town and ignoring claims like they don't matter they're basically just gamethrowing anyway.
Either we get scum or we cut off a weak link that's just holding us back.
It's like there's nothing to lose.

[BananaCucho]

Something something policy lunch

[BananaCucho]

E-1 btw. I think

[Porkens]

Claims don’t matter when they are obviously fake as fuck

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hey Catboi, if Starbuck is ready i don't mind if you hammer now.

[Starbuck]

I'm good. I'm going to catch a Corruption regardless.

[Starbuck]

Thanks for letting me catch up and all. It's appreciated.

[catboi]

I'm good. I'm going to catch a Corruption regardless.

If that's the case then you can take it? seems smarter to reduce the amount being added to the playerlist.

[Porkens]

Everyone is afraid to hammer because you all VOTE: know I’m town

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lolcat more.
It fuels me.