Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[teacher]

That's a lot of text to say "everyone is null"

Good take. But in her one finished game, Testa similarly declined to have reads til about two days in, with the same maybe-this, maybe-that routine. Thats where we are, so, Testa, whatchu got?

[Menalque]

Was testa scum or town in that game?

[teacher]

Honestly I kinda like Dramonic. They are at least producing content/providing reasoning behind reads (hey, Hiraki, any time you want to hit up 295 that would be grand). While I disagree with their takes, I can see the reasoning and I like the different perspective. I also dont really feel like they're misrepping.

Okay, what about the specific thing I just talked about? Like my reason for why I think hiraki is scum has been fairly clearly laid out and has nothing to do with whether I like their style much or not

Why do you think dram was implying that that was my reason for voting there?

Im not certain he was. It was a throwaway line at the end of a post with a different topic. Regardless, its obvious that Dram doesnt agree with/think much of your Hiraki case, so Im not surprised that he would belittle it. I just dont see it as misrepping, and certainly not intentionally so, rather than stating his own view of it.

[teacher]

Was testa scum or town in that game?

town.

[Menalque]

Yeah I looked it up

Hmm-mm

Okay, I’ll think about it

[teacher]

Was testa scum or town in that game?

town.

But (and I didnt notice this) a town PR, so may have been wanting to stay kinda under radar too. (my own maybe-this )

[Menalque]

I think the pertinent question is maybe more “why does dram disagree with my hiraki case?”

Because the main argument there seems to be “Mena is scum”

Why am I scum “because haven is scum and associations” plus I guess other stuff if he does get around to casing me

[Menalque]

I mean I guess I can maybe see it on like a very level 0 thinking thing

[Menalque]

Coupled with being out of date

Yo dram how many games have you played the last, say, 2 years?

[Menalque]

Also can anyone do the math on how many misguillos we get given the extra scum and the 2 NKs?

[Menalque]

Honestly I kinda like Dramonic. They are at least producing content/providing reasoning behind reads (hey, Hiraki, any time you want to hit up 295 that would be grand). While I disagree with their takes, I can see the reasoning and I like the different perspective. I also dont really feel like they're misrepping.

Okay, what about the specific thing I just talked about? Like my reason for why I think hiraki is scum has been fairly clearly laid out and has nothing to do with whether I like their style much or not

Why do you think dram was implying that that was my reason for voting there?

Im not certain he was. It was a throwaway line at the end of a post with a different topic. Regardless, its obvious that Dram doesnt agree with/think much of your Hiraki case, so Im not surprised that he would belittle it. I just dont see it as misrepping, and certainly not intentionally so, rather than stating his own view of it.

@dann do you agree/disagree with this?

[dramonic]

I think the pertinent question is maybe more “why does dram disagree with my hiraki case?”

Because the main argument there seems to be “Mena is scum”

Why am I scum “because haven is scum and associations” plus I guess other stuff if he does get around to casing me

This is

I mean I guess I can maybe see it on like a very level 0 thinking thing

not a

Coupled with being out of date

Yo dram how many games have you played the last, say, 2 years?

town mentality

also 0

[dramonic]

Also can anyone do the math on how many misguillos we get given the extra scum and the 2 NKs?

assuming full fail to accomplish anything by the PRs, 2?

ML-2k-ML-2k puts us at 3-2-2

[Menalque]

So by that point town are already in a kingmaker scenario right?

[Menalque]

So de facto 1 misguillo in a worst case scenario

[Menalque]

Btw do you wanna explain why that’s not a town mentality or are we playing the guessing game again?

[teacher]

Also can anyone do the math on how many misguillos we get given the extra scum and the 2 NKs?

I think worst-case 1:

• 9:2:2 (free misguillo and double town kill)
  
• 6:2:2, misguillo and double town kill leads to loss —>
  
• 3:2:2, Guillo and double town kill ->scum victory at 2:1:1

[dramonic]

and we don't want to be at 3-2-2, so I guess 1 but again, that's assuming the PRs are sleeping somethin first and scum never crosskills.


You're trying to discredit me as a player in this game by commenting on my intellect as opposed to my case. This kind of behavior is frankly unacceptable, but I'll let you paint yourself in a corner since we've fallen to that level of play apparently.

[dramonic]

It's not even grasping at straws at this point, it's like...
"... WELL YOU'RE OLD AND A POOPYHEAD SO THERE!"

[Menalque]

I don’t think I’m doing that and I apologise if you think I am

I *do* think you’re playing to an outdated site meta which is leading you to bad reads, and it’s not the same thing. I’ve also seen it before first hand with a scumbuddy of mine a couple of games ago where he was in PT like “idgi why are people scumreading me, this is literally my town meta??” and it was just because the site had moved on a lot in play from when he was active

[Dannflor]

yeah I would guess the posters on this page are all town and scum is sitting back

[Dannflor]

Honestly I kinda like Dramonic. They are at least producing content/providing reasoning behind reads (hey, Hiraki, any time you want to hit up 295 that would be grand). While I disagree with their takes, I can see the reasoning and I like the different perspective. I also dont really feel like they're misrepping.

Okay, what about the specific thing I just talked about? Like my reason for why I think hiraki is scum has been fairly clearly laid out and has nothing to do with whether I like their style much or not

Why do you think dram was implying that that was my reason for voting there?

Im not certain he was. It was a throwaway line at the end of a post with a different topic. Regardless, its obvious that Dram doesnt agree with/think much of your Hiraki case, so Im not surprised that he would belittle it. I just dont see it as misrepping, and certainly not intentionally so, rather than stating his own view of it.

@dann do you agree/disagree with this?

dram's playstyle annoys me and it's hard for me to get a read on him without that interfering

but I don't see reason to believe he's scum versus stubborn / self-confident town at this point in time

[dramonic]

bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
META? xD

[dramonic]

You don't get to be scum and say "oh it's my meta, I have immunity!" ya funny lad

[Menalque]

That’s not what I said