Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[Menalque]

Like I’m not suggesting rand, but I’m saying that even people renowned for their accuracy of reads I think are normally only hitting about 70% or something

55-60% is just realistic for a strong scumread on D1 with no additional info

[dramonic]

... Is there a word for fake lack-of-confidence?

[dramonic]

Like I’m not suggesting rand, but I’m saying that even people renowned for their accuracy of reads I think are normally only hitting about 70% or something

55-60% is just realistic for a strong scumread on D1 with no additional info

Like I have no word for how weak-willed this stance is.

[dramonic]

I don't even mean it as an insult, I'm dumbfounded here.

[Hiraki]

i have no clue what either of you two are getting on about with percentages other than making me zzzz

[Dannflor]

I don't even mean it as an insult, I'm dumbfounded here.

some people play mafia differently from you

[Menalque]

I have an accurate idea of how good my reads are, I think

I think the odds of being accurately on scum are not great based on my own work and only my own work. Read strength is not what I do well as town, and I’m okay with that and with giving an accurate indication of how likely I really think hiraki is to flip scum

[Dannflor]

... Is there a word for fake lack-of-confidence?

it's called hedging but I don't think that's what menalque is trying to do here

[Menalque]

Like I’d rather say it’s slightly more likely than not that hiraki flips scum, and that’s a significant improvement on the random chance of finding scum

[Menalque]

Like for reference I doubt I would almost ever claim a higher certainty than maybe 70% now in my belief that someone would flip scum D1, outside of them outright counterclaiming a role I knew I had in an open setup

[dramonic]

Like I’d rather say it’s slightly more likely than not that hiraki flips scum, and that’s a significant improvement on the random chance of finding scum

I'd probably throw myself off a cliff before trying to push a vote I'm not 90% sold on.
Figuratively

[dramonic]

I don't even mean it as an insult, I'm dumbfounded here.

some people play mafia differently from you

I know why do you think I'm vitriolic all the time.

[Menalque]

Okay, and unless your reads are flipping scum 90% of the time (and again, I very much doubt this given that one of the players with one of the strongest read rates in recent history was, as mentioned, at around 70% or something), you shouldn’t be hitting that level of confidence each time

[dramonic]

Try me

[Menalque]

Well I mean I know that at a minimum you’re at 50% rn so... no? Also this has mostly just served to distract from the whole host of reasons for why hiraki is likely scum on the last page

[Hiraki]

2 + 2 = 4 - 1 = 3

[Gamma Emerald]

im confused what you see differently then

I think I'm actually on the same page with how that Mena post is being interpreted now

I still want teacher to explain his earlier thing though

[Umlaut]

Ugh I shouldn't have signed up for another game, I thought I'd be more engaged this time but I'm just endlessly playing catchup

(Which I am about to do now)

2 + 2 = 4 - 1 = 3

On a completely unrelated note, I hate the way this is written.

[Umlaut]

Hi Gamma!

[Hiraki]

Ugh I shouldn't have signed up for another game, I thought I'd be more engaged this time but I'm just endlessly playing catchup

(Which I am about to do now)

2 + 2 = 4 - 1 = 3

On a completely unrelated note, I hate the way this is written.

quick maths

[Menalque]

I am a little concerned by how you’re not really trying to parse my meaning at all? It’s just “what does this mean” a whole bunch. Doesn’t make me think you’re really trying to understand what I’m saying.

Ftr, i object to this characterisation, I’m trying, failing to do so at points because what you’ve said is unclear to me, and seeking clarification

Like I don’t think it’s reasonable at all to expect me to understand what you meant by “he’s like a prodigal son sort of” and think that if I had taken a guess as to what you meant, it would always have been ambiguous and likely would have led to miscommunication

This feels like straight shade, honestly

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Dunnstral

@mod V/LA until Saturday sometime

[Menalque]

Also, gamma, I’m aware you said other stuff but it was a lot of words and I’ve had a couple of beers and I just don’t really feel like trying to parse whether it makes sense or it’s just bs right now

I’ll get to it another time

[Gamma Emerald]

it's pretty easy to slap a few town reads on people as scum

openly admitting to having basically 1 real read isn't something scum really needs to do, it reads genuine to me

Nah, I disagree, I think town mostly come to at least a few reads naturally

I’m p sure I see the “huh I just don’t have reads this game idk” come from scum more than town

I'm also not that fast at forming reads most of the time, at least these days

as for whether scum would do this, it would most likely be a way to feign natural reads. Scum can obviously produce fake reads at any time, so I'd say that lack of reads would generally lean town. Also wrt a term for this, maybe "feigned doubt"?

[Gamma Emerald]

... Is there a word for fake lack-of-confidence?

I answered this thinking it was about something else lol

is me just missing what things are referring to just going to be the thing for me this game