Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Datisi]

3000

[Datisi]

fine by me

[dsjstr]

I'm a VT from 882, I am the hydra that was in that game.

[Raven Branwen]

rooroo in 903.

[Datisi]

tris from 893: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81029

i'm a town lover. i'm effectively a VT, except i investigate and flip as a town lover. i didn't bother crumbing too hard, since glorified VT, but i did drop this:

love you too, duckee

this is why i said i believed duck when he said he's a neighbor with no neighbor. i'm a lover with no lover.

[Raven Branwen]

rooroo in 903.

VT

[Raven Branwen]

rooroo in 903.

VT

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=900

[Raven Branwen]

tris from 893: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81029

i'm a town lover. i'm effectively a VT, except i investigate and flip as a town lover. i didn't bother crumbing too hard, since glorified VT, but i did drop this:

love you too, duckee

this is why i said i believed duck when he said he's a neighbor with no neighbor. i'm a lover with no lover.

UNVOTE:

[Datisi]

keep in mind that doesn't necessarily confirm his alignment, i don't see a reason why scum couldn't be a neighbor with no neighbor... but i highly doubt it at this point.

[Raven Branwen]

I think you + real vig is unlikely. Datisi shot just because of the tiny chance that you are real and Pooky is real vig but Datisi happens to be scum.

pedit: @skitter

But Dats is one of my strongest tr, so I don’t think this is a great idea? Can you explain your thinking here?

[Raven Branwen]

keep in mind that doesn't necessarily confirm his alignment, i don't see a reason why scum couldn't be a neighbor with no neighbor... but i highly doubt it at this point.

I’m not sure what to think about duckling atp but I don’t want it on my head that I possibly helped execute a town bg. I agree that not having a neighbour like you not having a lover is definitely plausible.

I also disagree with Skitter about SS not being a valid bg target. Koba did appear to soft a PR, so duckling protecting SS over vt!Lillith is completely believable.

[Something_Smart]

Looker, VT from Butterfly Mafia. I believe Koba softed this.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think there's any reason to push duck - bodyguard is a strong PR with a FN because BG can just guard FN every night - it's almost as strong as 2 conf-town

[Something_Smart]

I will also HEAL: Datisi for being such a perfect mod and making it easy to find the role list especially enjoyed reading Butterfly mafia near the end <3

[Datisi]

it's pooky/dsjstr. discuss.

[Something_Smart]

I don't think duck can be scum here. FN + a bunch of named townies just isn't enough power.

[Something_Smart]

Which also fits with my gamestate read of skitter being alive in order to push him.

[Datisi]

also also: the reason pooky is claiming didn't try to shoot last night (even though he knows he's in the PoE after aldus flip) is because if he says he shot and he's a blank, we might hang him because "oh well just named townie" while now he's like "oh yeah gonna TRY TO shoot night 2". discuss. and by discuss i mean vote pooky.

[Raven Branwen]

it's pooky/dsjstr. discuss.

I thought Pooky sounded different here than in coalition but I tr both you and SS and if duckling makes sense as mech town, than I don’t know who else it could be.

I also don’t see how from pooky’s pov, shooting on N2 makes more sense than on N1. Lillith thought he was going to be the NK, so I really don’t understand why he would think he wouldn’t be the NK. That’s what I was expecting. Now had he not softed PR, his thinking about waiting would actually make sense but since he did do that, I don’t understand why vig!Pooky is so confident he gets the chance N2.

[Raven Branwen]

also also: the reason pooky is claiming didn't try to shoot last night (even though he knows he's in the PoE after aldus flip) is because if he says he shot and he's a blank, we might hang him because "oh well just named townie" while now he's like "oh yeah gonna TRY TO shoot night 2". discuss. and by discuss i mean vote pooky.

So, if he is telling the truth here and he shot a blank, that would confirm he had no vig powers right, so yeah I would think if he was going to test that, it definitely made way more sense on N1.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don’t understand why vig!Pooky is so confident he gets the chance N2.

I'm not confident - but if I shoot on N1 and hit town and scum kill me, then town is at lylo on D2 and I'm not going to do that to you guys when I messed up on D1 already.

[Raven Branwen]

I don’t understand why vig!Pooky is so confident he gets the chance N2.

I'm not confident - but if I shoot on N1 and hit town and scum kill me, then town is at lylo on D2 and I'm not going to do that to you guys when I messed up on D1 already.

But wouldn’t that be even more so the case on N2?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

N2 I get input from the town and post-mass claim I have a better idea of who to shoot.

I was hoping to use it more as a way to win in endgame vs scum if I had been able to keep myself hidden

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like if we r at 5p lylo - 2 scum jump on and lynch someone - I kill a scum they kill a townie, then endgame 1v1 I draw the game or something like that

[the worst]

Trying to decide if I would value noelim and having Pooky shoot (/me die???) more than I would value an elim atp