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[Iconeum]

your result clearly went thru, so he can't claim any of those, right?

i'm pretty sure you get a different result if your action failed?

[Datisi]

ico. at the time, i was claiming loyal neighborizer. there isn't any difference between "neighborizer failing because you targetted scum", "because you targetted a commuter", "because you got roleblocked." like, sure, i wasn't roleblocked. but *at the time*, baltar didn't know that i'm a tracker. if he's scum trying to get out of a loyal neighborizer guilty, a jailkeeper claim on me is a plausible way to do that.

(which is incidentally why i fakeclaimed it at first, to see if he was gonna try to trick me like that)

[Iconeum]

ok fair enough

time will sort out if town indeed has both a tracker AND a PT cop

[Datisi]

i'm just asking you to show me a bit of trust on this one, ico.

[Iconeum]

i'm just asking you to show me a bit of trust on this one, ico.

i'm not yelling at you or pushing you
and i'm still townreading you

i think i'm giving you plenty of trust here

[Iconeum]

why shouldn't we lynch bob

[Datisi]

i'm just asking you to show me a bit of trust on this one, ico.

i'm not yelling at you or pushing you
and i'm still townreading you

i think i'm giving you plenty of trust here

i meant wrt baltar
like i have an idea what fakeclaiming scum would have done, and this ain't it chief

why shouldn't we lynch bob

i don't actually know. lol i kinda townread him idk. my reads are fucked.

[Iconeum]

i'm not denying my support to a bob flip if it comes to it

there's too many people who scumread the slot, and they can't all be scum

it's clear there's something wrong with my reads here but i'm definitely not sure where except for what I expressed so far today

[Alduskkel]

ugh. my brain.

also if bob is scum then that means that he's almost certainly been bussed by his partners?? that doesn't really make sense???

[Iconeum]

he hasn't even flipped at this point, so i don't think the argument 'has been bussed' makes sense

[Iconeum]

also in general, why wouldn't scum bus their partner? what doesn't make sense exactly?

[Alduskkel]

...it makes it harder for them to win?

[Iconeum]

no

if anything, a solid bus will win a game for scum

talking in general here, i'm not saying it has to apply to this game

[Alduskkel]

i guess after how coalition went i have to admit you have a point lol

[Testarossa]

I am kind of between the doors with heading off to work, but the whole claim situation makes me excited. lol
There are some things, that I want to be clarified.

Fine.

I'm a PT cop. I investigated George Bailey last night. Got no result because he died. Was trying to root out the scum who was sitting in the background.

Tbf my initial gut reaction is, that this is bs. Ascetic etc. is basically an admission of guilt, so it would make sense to gamble on it being a gambit by Datisi or play the Roleblocker/whatever card. PT Cop seems to be playing up to the Neighborizer claim and basically we will confirm it sooner or later, because if there are no Masons or Neighbors in this setup, that would make the PT Cop an ungated Cop and I doubt that would be the case.

Second, you literally got "no result"? According to the wiki a PT Cop should receive "no access" if he targets a person without PT access, no result only shows up when blocked, targeting ascetic or similar. GB dying has no influence on this.

[Iconeum]

how are we gonna go about the mech part of this game

putting both tracker and pt cop on bob seems like overkill for what is a widely scumread slot

if people can't get over a scum!bob read, we should still flip it (just like i feel i should be flipped when people cannot ever townread me)

i would personally prefer using town power to sort in a bunch of middle/null players like testa/billy or even NPOW

[Testarossa]

why would you check georgebailey? when you could've checked bob? and did you crumb anywhere?

Didn't breadcrumb. Not really my style.

Picked GB because I figured I could easily still get scum!Bob yeeted after janko flipped green. Seemed pointless to waste my cop there when I could catch 2 scum in one day

Why GB and not anyone else on the janko wagon? You had Billy and NPOM as possible partners for Snow/bob yesterday and your reads might have changed (at least regarding Billy as I figure by one of your posts yesterday).

I need those questions answered, because tbh I find your claim hard to swallow, even although we are probably going through with bob at this point.

Finally, I find it weird that according to your first D2 post 1782 you thought the kill was weird and that you would need to reread GB's iso to see what his thoughts were. Like surely you had some thoughts when you were targeting him last night? I mean that man has no 473 posts, but merely 22 posts that aren't even walls. I mean we are giving you most likely the benefit of doubt, but phew, consistent looks different.

[Iconeum]

testa/npow/billy/hellbooks

town power goes into these names imo

and we all agree to either flip bob today, or townread him. I don't see any point in not flipping him if he will be scumread tomorrow (and assigning town power to him achieves nothing to very little)

[Datisi]

ico, publically leashing a tracker while 2-3 scum are alive is a horrible idea

[Iconeum]

i'm not leashing anything, i'm providing a somewhat narrow pool of players i think are a good option for town power

[Iconeum]

consider it my way of expressing i'm in dire need of a read on those slots

[Iconeum]

weekend vla

i'm looking at you kobba

[DkKoba]

ico u know that we just hang baltar if he doesnt die tonight right?

[Raya36]

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[Raya36]

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