because thatIn post 3049, Raven Branwen wrote:why not just say he vigged N1 but it failed? Why claim he just didn’t try?
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confirmshim to be either a blank or a lying scum. and with me in the game, you know which option i'm gonna push. this way, he can still buy time with "oh let me confirm myself tonight".I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Micc
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In post 3048, Raven Branwen wrote:@mod how would a potential strongman affect a bg? Bgs aren’t like docs so I don’t see how a hypothetical strongman would affect anything.I can't answer this question without having the role PM's. I see the Strongman PM you quoted but not the other role. Do you have a specific game in mind?
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@mod, if this bodyguard and the strongman from the role PM in 3048 both targetted player A, strongman using their strongman shot, and no other relevant roles in play, who would die?Datisi wrote:I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Raven Branwen
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Oh it’s the same game? That means both roles can’t exist in this setup.In post 3052, Datisi wrote:@mod, if this bodyguard and the strongman from the role PM in 3048 both targetted player A, strongman using their strongman shot, and no other relevant roles in play, who would die?Datisi wrote:- Datisi
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it's not the same game. strongman is from 909, town bodyguard neighbor is from 930. the formatting looks similar because i modded both of those game.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Micc
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In post 3052, Datisi wrote:@mod, if this bodyguard and the strongman from the role PM in 3048 both targetted player A, strongman using their strongman shot, and no other relevant roles in play, who would die?Player A would be killed in this scenario."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Datisi
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thanks!
anyway i don't know why we needed this since town bodyguard + friendly neighbor + some named townies is pretty much balanced against 2 goons but there you goI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Raven Branwen
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Oh okay then it is possible but I don’t think a strongman would have any effect on a bg, so I think unlikely?In post 3054, Datisi wrote:it's not the same game. strongman is from 909, town bodyguard neighbor is from 930. the formatting looks similar because i modded both of those game.- Datisi
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the good mod literally just said that the bg can't stop a strongman shotI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Raven Branwen
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Really, not the bg? Okay I just thought a strongman’s kill would go through regardless but the bg would still die in that case. Maybe I’m confusing strongman with strongwilled?In post 3055, Micc wrote:In post 3052, Datisi wrote:@mod, if this bodyguard and the strongman from the role PM in 3048 both targetted player A, strongman using their strongman shot, and no other relevant roles in play, who would die?Player A would be killed in this scenario.- Raven Branwen
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In post 3058, Datisi wrote:the good mod literally just said that the bg can't stop a strongman shot
I did confuse strongman with strongwilled.Strong-Willed
Strong-Willed is a role modifier; it usually means that the player's abilities cannot be redirected or Roleblocked. However, any result that may be attained can still be tampered with by roles that alter informational results, such as Framer. In short, it greatly increases the chance of the player's ability working like the player wants it to.
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for (to me) very obivous reasons, no-elimination today is literal gamethrowing:
- pooky is either trueclaiming normal vigi, trueclaiming blank vigi, or scum. (ordered from least to most likely in my opinion.)
- if he's a normal vig, then sure he gets confirmed upon no-elim and double-kill, however in both other cases we're strictly worse off tomorrow, we're at evens, we've lost an elimination, and pooky isn't resolved. we're not doing this.
pooky needs to die here, that is a blatant fakeclaim. *however*, if the rest of you are so scared of executing a claimed power role, here's what we do:
- we agree on (1) non-pooky target we execute today, and (2) non-pooky target we would execute tomorrow in 5p lylo.
- we hang (1), we order pooky to shoot (2).
this is dumb, but at the very goddamn least it's not literal gamethrowing.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Raven Branwen
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How would the flips factor into that though? Don’t you think if the non-Pooky target flips town, Pooky shouldn’t shoot anyone? The idea was in place of a non exectution. Anyway, we have 2 mech cleared or in the case of duckling - not a clear but mech believable. I know I’m town and I don’t think it’s you or SS, which leaves djstr, so back to sqare one I guess.In post 3061, Datisi wrote:for (to me) very obivous reasons, no-elimination today is literal gamethrowing:
- pooky is either trueclaiming normal vigi, trueclaiming blank vigi, or scum. (ordered from least to most likely in my opinion.)
- if he's a normal vig, then sure he gets confirmed upon no-elim and double-kill, however in both other cases we're strictly worse off tomorrow, we're at evens, we've lost an elimination, and pooky isn't resolved. we're not doing this.
pooky needs to die here, that is a blatant fakeclaim. *however*, if the rest of you are so scared of executing a claimed power role, here's what we do:
- we agree on (1) non-pooky target we execute today, and (2) non-pooky target we would execute tomorrow in 5p lylo.
- we hang (1), we order pooky to shoot (2).
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no, that's exactly when he should be shooting.In post 3062, Raven Branwen wrote:Don’t you think if the non-Pooky target flips town, Pooky shouldn’t shoot anyone?
like for example, say we agree that we hang dsjstr today, and if that hits green, we hang me tomorrow in 5p lylo.
there is no difference in outcome of the game whether town!me gets murdered by a vigilante OR hanged in 5p lylo. in both cases, town loses the game.
however, in the case where i am scum, pooky successfully shooting me instead of me getting hanged conftowns him.
like, in case our target number (2) is town, we don't lose anything, but if they're scum, we gain a conftown.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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I guess this is possibleIn post 3016, Something_Smart wrote:Which also fits with my gamestate read of skitter being alive in order to push him.ShowHiatus once more.
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I think u should have shot, like, raven or dsjstr to test it last nightIn post 3020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I'm not confident - but if I shoot on N1 and hit town and scum kill me, then town is at lylo on D2 and I'm not going to do that to you guys when I messed up on D1 already.In post 3018, Raven Branwen wrote:I don’t understand why vig!Pooky is so confident he gets the chance N2.ShowHiatus once more.
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You dont know if you're a real vig tho ....In post 3023, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like if we r at 5p lylo - 2 scum jump on and lynch someone - I kill a scum they kill a townie, then endgame 1v1 I draw the game or something like that
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I am probably ok with thisIn post 3061, Datisi wrote:pooky needs to die here, that is a blatant fakeclaim. *however*, if the rest of you are so scared of executing a claimed power role, here's what we do:
- we agree on (1) non-pooky target we execute today, and (2) non-pooky target we would execute tomorrow in 5p lylo.
- we hang (1), we order pooky to shoot (2).
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skitt, what's your read on pooky now?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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DubiousShowHiatus once more.
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He has a p strong scumgame and i dont really know how to read him
The 'i feel bad so i wont shoot cuz i dont want to put us in a worse position' feels somewhat insincereShowHiatus once more.
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is there anything i'm missing that would make pooky/dsjstr an unviable team?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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I dont see anything that would make it unviable, but i also dont see anything that would make it unlikelyShowHiatus once more.
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i think i was right early day one and i hate itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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* but i also dont see anything that would make it likely
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