Mini 2150 - Anime SeiyuU-Pick [SHOW'S OVER!]

[catboi]

no. i guess that's fair for you to wait.

[Titus]

I fullclaimed yesterday.

VOTE: beeboy

There's no reason for scum!Titus to shoot Chemist here unless beeboy is scum too. If I shoot beeboy, then I get "conftown" status from Chemist and mastina.

If there are three scum, this might be lylo but I see no setup where beeboy isn't scum.

[jks]

What is your claim? That you're vanilla outside of the audition power?

[catboi]

there's almost certainly three scum in a role madness game

please restate your role abilities in one post, you claimed piecemeal yesterday

[MariaR]

I forgot star flipped vig tbh

[catboi]

There's no reason for scum!Titus to shoot Chemist here unless beeboy is scum too. If I shoot beeboy, then I get "conftown" status from Chemist and mastina.

that doesn't even make sense

[Titus]

there's almost certainly three scum in a role madness game

please restate your role abilities in one post, you claimed piecemeal yesterday

1 shot pass a vig, must be used that night otherwise target dies (paraphrase)

1 shot vig, audition bonus

[MariaR]

Would Chem die if he was roleblocked with the vig?

[Titus]

There's no reason for scum!Titus to shoot Chemist here unless beeboy is scum too. If I shoot beeboy, then I get "conftown" status from Chemist and mastina.

that doesn't even make sense

Think about what happens if scum!Titus provably shoots beeboy. Chemist and Mastina vouch for her as town.

So there's no reason for scum!Titus not to shoot beeboy unless beeboy is also scum.

All roads lead to beeboy scum.

[jks]

Could people in their next post claim if anything they did last night would explain why Chemist's shot is missing? e.g. if you commuted or something, just say yes.

[Titus]

Would Chem die if he was roleblocked with the vig?

My role pm doesn't explicitly say. If you were roleblocked, Chemist being roleblocked makes no sense.

If you're town, the mod forgot to tell Chemist about the day vig condition which is bastard modding. So he held and died.

Of course, my action was a day action the mod resolved at the end of the phase and didn't tell me.

[MariaR]

I was roleblocked Titus don't know what else to tell you. Roleblocker some kind of rolestopper I don't know. But at the moment the most logical scum team to me is you+beeboy

[Titus]

I was roleblocked Titus don't know what else to tell you. Roleblocker some kind of rolestopper I don't know. But at the moment the most logical scum team to me is you+beeboy

Great, then let's lynch beeboy together. The remarkable thing is we don't have to trust each other and it nets us a scum. If beeboy flips bulletproof, then my claim gets some validation.

[jks]

If you are a scum with beeboy, shooting him wasn't going to make them think you're town. It was just going to make them think you were telling the truth about being a vig.

It's not like it's unheard of for scum to gambit like that.

Did your vig shot have the same conditions as Chemist's? (i.e. Did you have to use it or die?)

[Titus]

Did your vig shot have the same conditions as Chemist's? (i.e. Did you have to use it or die?)

Mandatory use but no death clause. It just expires if not used.

[Titus]

If you are a scum with beeboy, shooting him wasn't going to make them think you're town. It was just going to make them think you were telling the truth about being a vig.

It's not like it's unheard of for scum to gambit like that.

This would require the shot to succeed for that gambit to have worth. The shot failed. Beeboy is alive. Thus no proof of the claim at all.

[catboi]

There's no reason for scum!Titus to shoot Chemist here unless beeboy is scum too. If I shoot beeboy, then I get "conftown" status from Chemist and mastina.

that doesn't even make sense

Think about what happens if scum!Titus provably shoots beeboy. Chemist and Mastina vouch for her as town.

So there's no reason for scum!Titus not to shoot beeboy unless beeboy is also scum.

All roads lead to beeboy scum.

i mean...he flips town and then then you're in mylo and have to push someone else instead and mastina was scumreading you and would probably vote you

[Titus]

There's no reason for scum!Titus to shoot Chemist here unless beeboy is scum too. If I shoot beeboy, then I get "conftown" status from Chemist and mastina.

that doesn't even make sense

Think about what happens if scum!Titus provably shoots beeboy. Chemist and Mastina vouch for her as town.

So there's no reason for scum!Titus not to shoot beeboy unless beeboy is also scum.

All roads lead to beeboy scum.

i mean...he flips town and then then you're in mylo and have to push someone else instead and mastina was scumreading you and would probably vote you

Mastina would not have voted me as a)Mastina is universally scumkilled in my plan, even if it works flawlessly.

The answer is what would chemist think. I gave chemist the gun because I was afraid mastina shoots me and gamethrows tbh.

[MariaR]

I guess I'll wait for the others but I'm trying to see what the world is with only 1 of beeboy/Titus scum.

If beeboy is scum and titus is town we had 3 ways of killing scum
If titus is scum and beeboy is town scum had a vig and no way of knowing about a cop/tracker that we're aware of.

Both of these seem pretty reachy

[catboi]

I really have no idea how to apply setup spec to a role madness game

[MariaR]

I don't either because this seems extrmely messy

[jks]

If you are a scum with beeboy, shooting him wasn't going to make them think you're town. It was just going to make them think you were telling the truth about being a vig.

It's not like it's unheard of for scum to gambit like that.

This would require the shot to succeed for that gambit to have worth. The shot failed. Beeboy is alive. Thus no proof of the claim at all.

Correct. Which is why I'm thinking about possible explanations for what went down last night.

I do not believe Chemist would have held onto a vig shot even if the mod forgot to inform him of the death condition. It's possible I guess, or maybe for whatever reason he just forgot to submit a shot or something, but with the plan at the end if yesterday, I don't think he would have chosen to hold onto it.

I'm currently thinking either something stopped his target dying or you're lying about giving him the shot in the first place.

[jks]

If Chemist had a vig shot, he probably targeted Donkey Kong, especially after the way yesterday ended.

I have reason to believe Donkey Kong is more likely town than not and I can't really think of any reason scum would block Chemist's shot unless they thought he was going to shoot them, so...

Where did Chemist's shot go? And how did both he and mastina die?

This is what I'm currently thinking over.

(I don't want to rule out Chemist forgetting to submit a shot but really, unless Tatsuya made a huge mod error, I don't see that as at all likely.)

[Aristophanes]

Oh shit are we in ELo/MeLo? Uh, I'm down for massclaiming before we get out of the Audition phase.

I was going to rep out because next week I'm into another 60h work week (coworkers keep taking holidays and new people are in training meaning I pick up all the slack ) but I'll stay in at this point in the game because like,that's just not fair. You've been warned tho that my activity may be minimal.

Are we Popcorning?

[jks]

It hasn't really been agreed upon. Though beeboy should probably start if we are doing it. And sooner rather than later.