Newbie 2023 - Hedgehogs - Day 3

[beeboy]

Day 1, VC 8

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Andresvmb (3) -

Bell, notscience, innocentvillager

WaltertheDunce10 (2) -

The Bulge, Bellaphant

Bellaphant (2) -

Andresvmb, WaltertheDunce10,

innocentvillager (1) -

Nash

The Bulge (1) -

Ouroel

Not Voting (0)

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Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-16 11:00:00)

[Bell]

yup. I sure am voting ns and not Andre.

Fixed

[Bell]

Hi Andre!

[Andresvmb]

Hey Bell. I was catching up with the other game I am playing here. It’s past 2am here so I’ll read quickly and post some thoughts and maybe come back to this tomorrow middle of the day.

[Andresvmb]

Bell, I think what I most disliked about your entry was simply your comment about wagoning me. I didn’t appreciate it. You might call it OMGUS’y (and therefore, poor) now that I look at it again. And your arguments about Bellaphant ring true to me (cautious and asking questions).

[Bell]

I get it. As mafia or town being threatened with elimination is definitely not cool.

[Bell]

don’t stay up too late Andre. It’s 11:15 pm here. Sleep is important you know.

[Andresvmb]

I learned stuff.

He has two scum modes. The unsure one he isn’t playing as but the more aggressive, confident one he could be. That’s fairly difficult to differentiate from his town games though. He’s more excited, happy, and sort of side chatty when he’s town.
He posts a lot as either alignment.
His ‘haha’ thing is just a thing he does. So, I won’t read into it.but one day in the future I will be able to differentiate between his town hahas and his scum hahas.

Probably not.

You might think self-meta is worthless, but here it goes anyway. I have realized that I play aggressive and relatively confident as Scum when there’s something riding on it that goes beyond the individual game. So, the general read you’re expressing here is fairly accurate actually, though it won’t help you too much because I have the incentive not too look like a totally incompetent player to a group of people I haven’t played with before. Not that I completely tank as Scum otherwise, but it’s hard to keep the posting up when you’re not solving for anything, and just trying to deceive people. It just isn’t fun for me, though I’m too much of a competitor to give up as either alignment.

[Andresvmb]

I caught Bellaphant’s (I think) comment about IV being quite jumpy - they have obviously jumped on my wagon, so maybe something to think about.

[Andresvmb]

Also, I should UNVOTE: .

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: InnocentVillager

[Andresvmb]

I’m almost making this vote for posterity. Look at this slot much closer if you decide I need to flip. There’s some posts deflecting responsibility for their vote (which is a bad sign), and their flip from saying that Notscience was Town to voting there doesn’t seem particularly convincing. Anyway.

[Bellaphant]

Can you do something more useful with your vote? You are being strangely fatalistic

[Bell]

VLA till Monday. Helping brother move into student housing. Will probably still post. just will be limited.

[Bell]

Oops. Didn’t mean to quote that.

@andre, how does getting eliminated day 1 in a newbie game, cohere with a competitive mindset?

[innocentvillager]

i think we need an E-1 and a claim. id prefer andres but I can move elsewhere ifneedbe (other than Our, NS). there is less than a day to go and if we hit a PR we need to switch off (unless there's a cc obviously)

[innocentvillager]

TO CLARIFY no claim UNTIL the E-1 and someone wants wagonee to claim.

[The Bulge]

No matter which way I look at it, the last few pages have seen a whole lot of towning it up. If andre is town, does scum benefit in this position from doing anything rather than keeping up appearances? If andre is scum, does anything need to be done besides let him defend himself? bella is sliding toward my townlean side with basically every post and I think bell comes out of these last few pages looking good as well. I want to say the same for iv but I still really have no idea how to interpret his tone and thus don't think I should be letting high activity dictate my read of his slot.

my vote stays on walter but I'll be around today with an eye on andre's wagon

[innocentvillager]

^ townposting from bulge. No reason for scum to point all this out unless his partner is in there somewhere

[Bell]

Put Andre at l-1

[The Bulge]

I'd prefer to wait until he's here

[innocentvillager]

we dont have time bulge

[Andresvmb]

Oops. Didn’t mean to quote that.

@andre, how does getting eliminated day 1 in a newbie game, cohere with a competitive mindset?

I don’t get to determine who gets eliminated. I’m trying to be helpful.

[Andresvmb]

Also, I was trying to structure how I’m seeing the game. Here it is:

Lean Town
{The Bulge, Ouroel}
Slight Lean Town
{notscience, Bellaphant, WaltertheDunce10}
Neutral
{Clarity/Bell}
Slight Lean Scum
{Nash}
Lean Scum
{InnocentVillager}

[The Bulge]

VOTE: andre