Mini Normal 2157 | Mafia PT

[NoPowerOverMe]

It's fun though:(.

[Alduskkel]

I'm already committed to townreading Bob, is it okay if I bus NPOM? But ideally I'd like you guys to get a Bob elim today while I protest it.

[Alduskkel]

Like I wanna distance but I don't actually want NPOM eliminated today lol

[NoPowerOverMe]

It's okay.

[VP Baltar]

I think that is a fine plan. Let's make sure the Bob thing is a done deal before we have you come hard at npom

[VP Baltar]

Fuck, now Datisi is asking me to clarify my result. I'm gonna lay low. We need a hammer on Bob. Who isn't voting there who could be? Koba, Aldus...

[VP Baltar]

Unless you guys see a good way to talk myself out of the no result thing. If I hadn't said "because he was dead" I could wiggle my way out of it.

Do I just lean in and say IDK?

[VP Baltar]

Also, is my count wrong? Why does Koba keep talking about LyLo as if it is tomorrow? Won't it be 9 alive/ 5 to yeet tomorrow?

Think they are trying to bait Aldus into a quick hammer

[VP Baltar]

mod please count this vote. Trying to game the system!

VOTE:
bob


yeah say i wont put him in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VP Baltar]

I'm holding my breath!

[VP Baltar]

There are serious elder council deliberations happening right now

[VP Baltar]

NPOM any thoughts on ways out of my results mistake?

[VP Baltar]

I think that was a real hammer, right?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Say it was one shot

[Raya36]

It is now night

[VP Baltar]

Say it was one shot

Explain how this would allow Datisi to see me visit the NK, but me not get a result.

AND OH THANK GOD IT IS NIGHT MY GAME IS SO BAD RIGHT NOW.


Ok, so we definitely kill Datisi tonight, right?

I'm just going to go out in a blaze of glory tomorrow. Like I feel like I should almost claim I have a guilty on NPOM? I'm just throwing crazy ideas out here right now. What is the best way we can WIFOM the town into a loss here at this point?

[NoPowerOverMe]

You can say that you got a guilty on me and then I'll say I'm part of a man I'd rather not out my partners

[Alduskkel]

part of a man

???

If you mean "masonry" then no, you should absolutely not claim to be a Mason, that's a death sentence.

Anyway, I'm going to spend a bit thinking about our night actions.

[Alduskkel]

it's also possible that datisi is claiming the night action of one of the other masons. when datisi made that claim he likely knew it would result in his death -- so if you're the mason group, you'd want the mason with no other powers to take the bullet, rather than the mason who's also a tracker. so perhaps we'd actually be better off shooting hellbooks or billy on night 2.

I think the smart play is NPOM uses his multitasking, kills Billy, and jails hellbooks.
Assuming Billy flips Mason:
Tomorrow, VPB waits to post until Datisi posts. If Datisi says something like "why didn't you target anyone last night, VPB?" then claim you were a 1-shot PT Cop. Otherwise, claim you got a positive result but are hesitant to reveal it because the target could be a Mason. If the town agrees you should reveal your result, claim a positive on hellbooks.

This is a bit risky but if I've read the situation right (i.e., I'm right about the masons being dats-hellbooks-billy and that dats isn't the tracker), then it has a high reward.

The more standard play is NPOW multitask kills Datisi and rolecops hellbooks.

[VP Baltar]

I like that plan. I'm still going to get pressured over my no result mistake, but if I go down in flames you guys can burn me for town cred

[Alduskkel]

@Mod
NPOM kills Billy.
NPOM jails hellbooks.

we can change it if we want later but I just want to have something submitted

[VP Baltar]

I'm gonna read this afternoon, but I think this is a good plan.

[VP Baltar]

wait, thought you wanted to rolecop hellbrooks?

I do think jailing makes a lot of sense though and is probably more powerful

[VP Baltar]

Here is the way I kind of see the pressure probably breaking down tomorrow, at least initially:

Tess & Koba will likely focus on me. I don't have a good answer for the no result, but I'll focus on my "positive" result last night and hopefully direct discussion away.

Datisi may go after andres.

Hellbrooks, andres and Ico are more of a toss up. I could see them focusing on someone within {VP, NPOM, Tess}

Swinging toward andres may be the path of least resistance since I could see other folks buying that argument if they don't want to kill me right away tomorrow. But that's probably going to rely on one of you two influencing that. I don't know if I can legit come out hard against him tomorrow given we were aligning. Alternatively, if you do end up having to bus me, I think going after andres as my buddy will be easy work the following day.

[VP Baltar]

Any thoughts on this:

In post 2242, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
Does anyone know. Would you get a result if your target died?

i have an idea about this "i got no result" thing, but my issue is if i say it now and baltar confirms, it's gonna be "hurr durr you told scum what answer to give"