Micro 962: Geriatric Trio II (Town Victory)

[Sou and Kanna]

considering clidd wasn’t in any danger, i believe him

and as scum, I think you’d always be hyperaware of how others are going to perceive you, and this kind of thing I’d think you’d think makes people like you less

~kanna

[clidd]

Miss Kanna, could I

persuade

you that there is scum between KMD and Bingle ?

Do you think there is any truth in people who see me as town to be an indicator that they know my alignment (scum) and would like to take a stand if I were eliminated ? Wouldn't it be normal to think that I am scum for my progression seeing this from a town mentality ?

Or would it make more sense for scum, in this scenario, to take advantage of the waves of suspicion about me and formalize a scumread ?

[clidd]

Actually, KMD is less scummy now. So we're talking about Bingle.

VOTE: Bingle

[AGar]

Porkens is concerning me because of wagonomics but content is middling. I put more stock in wagonomics so Porkens gets binned as slightly scummy for now.

what do you mean here?

~kanna

Not sure I can help you see what is bad about the timing and position of Porkens's vote if you don't already see it. It's pretty straight forward.

Guys, KMD is scum.

I played as scum vs town!him and my tone was basically the same I'm using here (which is why Porkens is scumreading me, because he also played as town in the same game) but KMD is kind of ignoring me.

Town!Kmd would look at my posts and vote instantly on me.

This is bad but Kmd's response is also bad. Everything from clidd's outburst can be binned in the "IDGAF about any of this." bin. Anyone trying to argue its indicative of alignment one way or another can catch these hands.

[Porkens]

Everything from clidd's outburst can be binned in the "IDGAF about any of this." bin.

I disagree. His outburst is based on how much he

does care

about the game. He's not saying "fuck it, yeet me a lose, this town is fucked," he's saying "Can we just yeet me now because I don't want to get yeeted in yeetlo?"

Agar

, can you show me any lines from clidd that show he DGAF?

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Actually, KMD is less scummy now. So we're talking about Bingle.

VOTE: Bingle

VOTE: bingle

Clidd

: Eww this is bad. What happened to your Agar read?

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you've all done something I hate already this game except reck and porkens

I've decided I am going to ignore clidd for the time being

What have you hated about Agar?
Why are you ignoring clidd?
Why are you voting for Bingle?

[AGar]

Porkens, the "I" is the operative letter. *I* do not give a fuck about clidd's outburst.

[Porkens]

So it's not alignment indicative because YOU don't give a fuck about it?

[clidd]

I saw Agar as a partner to KMD, but I don't think KMD stills way scummy as I thought. I need to see how Bingle will react to me.

But I'm willing to vote Agar too, if possible. His recent reactions are forced (as I said before, his trashtalk isn't towny as Reck).

[Porkens]

I saw Agar as a partner to KMD, but I don't think KMD stills way scummy as I thought. I need to see how Bingle will react to me.

But I'm willing to vote Agar too, if possible. His recent reactions are forced (as I said before, his trashtalk isn't towny as Reck).

I want' to see where the Bingle stuff goes but...
I'm putting a pin in this post for later.

[The Bulge]

What have you hated about Agar?

I think reck mentioned, the timing of his rage in 51 felt off within the context of the game. and his readslist doesn't say a whole lot about his reads on anyone. That being said I don't think it's very likely agar is scum

Why are you ignoring clidd?

I don't feel like giving myself a headache trying to read if it's all a scum act or a weird town gambit thing or some kind of trust tell and I'd much rather let it resolve somewhat before personally diving in. I will say though I felt violated the way he jumped on my naked bingle vote

Why are you voting for Bingle?

Bingle cannot generate content without some kind of mechanical or non-game-related crutch. their only game post was a fresh out of the ass critique of your freudposting that made no sense. Like they saw the post and said "I bet I can find something actionable here"

[clidd]

I saw Agar as a partner to KMD, but I don't think KMD stills way scummy as I thought. I need to see how Bingle will react to me.

But I'm willing to vote Agar too, if possible. His recent reactions are forced (as I said before, his trashtalk isn't towny as Reck).

I want' to see where the Bingle stuff goes but...
I'm putting a pin in this post for later.

I can change my mind at any moment, by the way.

[clidd]

It would be good if we eliminate me before lylo, otherwise it'll be a chaos.

But today let's try to hit scum.

[clidd]

Bingle is E-2, is he going to say something ?

[Sou and Kanna]

Not sure I can help you see what is bad about the timing and position of Porkens's vote if you don't already see it. It's pretty straight forward.

i found this interesting because it's a possible mindset slip. you've said you scumread us, but if your wagon analysis is what i think it is, then you also think we're town...............

Miss Kanna, could I

persuade

you that there is scum between KMD and Bingle ?

Do you think there is any truth in people who see me as town to be an indicator that they know my alignment (scum) and would like to take a stand if I were eliminated ? Wouldn't it be normal to think that I am scum for my progression seeing this from a town mentality ?

Or would it make more sense for scum, in this scenario, to take advantage of the waves of suspicion about me and formalize a scumread ?

i don't like bingle either, but it's not a strong dislike. refresh me why you think it's bingle?

i think it depends on the player. but i've thought about it, and if you're town, i think scum's natural response is to whiteknight you here actually. it's not so much strategising, but like i said, a natural response

~kanna

[Sou and Kanna]

Everything from clidd's outburst can be binned in the "IDGAF about any of this." bin.

I disagree. His outburst is based on how much he

does care

about the game. He's not saying "fuck it, yeet me a lose, this town is fucked," he's saying "Can we just yeet me now because I don't want to get yeeted in yeetlo?"

Agar

, can you show me any lines from clidd that show he DGAF?

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Actually, KMD is less scummy now. So we're talking about Bingle.

VOTE: Bingle

VOTE: bingle

Clidd

: Eww this is bad. What happened to your Agar read?

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you've all done something I hate already this game except reck and porkens

I've decided I am going to ignore clidd for the time being

What have you hated about Agar?
Why are you ignoring clidd?
Why are you voting for Bingle?

many questions

what do you think is the difference between IDGAF and DGAF? what does any of this mean?
why are the votes bad? wasn't bingle one of your top scumreads?
why agar?

~kanna

[Sou and Kanna]

i highkey think clidd's thought processes have been really weird this game, and that's probably townie because you'd want to be more digestible as scum

~kanna

[Michael Scott]

I don't think you're an empathetic person, Reck.

So your interpretive error is understandable. I imagine that Agar comes to the same conclusion as you.

But I confess that I would be able to do drama as scum, but not to the point of suggesting self-elimination.

So I'm supposed to believe that as scum you might use AtE/drama to try and get townread, but at the same time it would be outside of your scum range for you to mention self-elimination? If you are scum what you did was relatively low-risk, because you mentioned self-elimination early during this day phase, and we are still probably far away from actually eliminating someone. Is it at all likely that the town collectively would "call your bluff" and take you up on your offer and eliminate you today based on that alone? No, and you know that. So there's a very low chance that it backfires on scum!you, and the upside is that you possibly pickup some townreads as a result of doing it.

It's also easy for scum!you to back out of it on a later day, especially if we mis-eliminate today. You just argue that we can't afford another mis-elimination at that point.

If you had suggested self-elimination at a point in the game where we were closer to the deadline and you were actually at risk of being eliminated, that might be one thing. But that isn't the case here, and I see no reason why you should be townread over doing it.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[clidd]

Actually, no. If we didn't hit scum today, I'm willing to be eliminated tomorrow.

C'mon buddy, I know that you know that I'm town, Volxen. My pool of townreads is Porkens, Reck, Bulge and you (not sure on SK yet, he's between scum and town, something like null-null).

And the scum pool is Bingle, KMD (less sure), Agar (depending on his next reactions, I can change my mind).

[Michael Scott]

I saw Agar as a partner to KMD, but I don't think KMD stills way scummy as I thought. I need to see how Bingle will react to me.

But I'm willing to vote Agar too, if possible. His recent reactions are forced (as I said before, his trashtalk isn't towny as Reck).

I'm not seeing what you claim to be seeing with respect to Agar's trashtalk vs Reck's trashtalk, and you've brought this up multiple times now. Can you point to a specific example as to why you think that Agar's trashtalk is forced?


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[clidd]

Choo. Choo. Motherfuckers.

I literally fucking quoted the post you're referencing you dolt.

What the fuck is this horseshit? This is :badposting: and is super contrived.

I wanna circle back to this because look if you're gonna pull some dumb shit like meta (which I echo Reck's comments about trash), at least don't ask that person to do the heavy lifting for you. For so many fucking reasons.

Michael Scott is the worst kind of hydra and this attempt to stay "in character" is going to make me very annoyed throughout this game.

33 was garbage to begin with but looking at a VC just confirms that feeling.

Hi KMD. It's just an observation. I know your schedule is fucky.

Not sure I can help you see what is bad about the timing and position of Porkens's vote if you don't already see it

This is bad but Kmd's response is also bad. Everything from clidd's outburst can be binned in the "IDGAF about any of this." bin. Anyone trying to argue its indicative of alignment one way or another can catch these hands.

*I* do not give a fuck about clidd's outburst.

Take a look ^

What do you think about these posts ?

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.4

Bingle

(3): Kmd4930 7, The Bulge 145, clidd 152

Sou and Kanna

(2): AGar 26, xReckonerx 31

clidd

(2): Michael Scott 5, Porkens 88

Kmd4930

(1): Bingle 15

The Bulge

(1): Sou and Kanna 41

Not Voting

(0):

Nobody!

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to Eliminate
Day one ends Tuesday, August 25th at 8:30pm EST, or in (expired on 2020-08-25 20:30:00)

Mod Notes:

Porkens has used 1/20 Reserve Posts
clidd has used 19/20 Reserve Posts
Just a reminder that Post Counts reset at 8:30pm EST for this phase and that your Reserve Posts are a game-long reserve.

[AGar]

So it's not alignment indicative because YOU don't give a fuck about it?

It's not alignment indicative because that kind of tantrum can be pretty easily emulated regardless of alignment and crying "woe is me" when you have no votes on you is a waste of the limited posting available in the game. Clidd cried "Oh don't take me to lylo" because he wasn't happy with how people are playing, not because he was under immense scrutiny or anything game related.

[AGar]

Not sure I can help you see what is bad about the timing and position of Porkens's vote if you don't already see it. It's pretty straight forward.

i found this interesting because it's a possible mindset slip. you've said you scumread us, but if your wagon analysis is what i think it is, then you also think we're town...............

We're on page 7. There is no read I'm so married to that I'm not willing to note or remark on any other behavior that would contradict it.

[clidd]

So it's not alignment indicative because YOU don't give a fuck about it?

It's not alignment indicative because that kind of tantrum can be pretty easily emulated regardless of alignment and crying "woe is me" when you have no votes on you is a waste of the limited posting available in the game. Clidd cried "Oh don't take me to lylo" because he wasn't happy with how people are playing, not because he was under immense scrutiny or anything game related.

That's true. I can do that as scum to a certain extent, but overdoing it goes against my principles.

I have one question offtopic: following your behavior throughout the game, I noticed that you don't control what you want to express verbally. Is that your personality or a character ? or is this eventual, when you see something that you consider to be extremely incoherent/bad/etc ?

[Porkens]

many questions

what do you think is the difference between IDGAF and DGAF? what does any of this mean?
why are the votes bad? wasn't bingle one of your top scumreads?
why agar?

~kanna[/quote]

like children often do
she said...

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Kanna, I misunderstood what AGar was referring to. Agar doesn't give a fuck about clidd feeling sorry for himself, and thinks it's NAI. I thought he meant that clidd didn't give a fuck about the game.

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A wagon in Bingle is perfectly fine.
I was only refering to clidd's vote, and included Buldge's for context. clidd's vote is bad because he goes from voting KMD to Bingle, even though he previously expressed a significantly stronger scum read on Agar than Bingle.
It seemed to me that clidd's vote was more about getting a wagon growing on Bingle rather than pursuing his top scum read.