Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Isis]

That’s a weird kill.

I presume that if you were in the scum's shoes, you think you'd give Hoopla the deadly visit?

That's predictable though, setups have doctors, etc.

I went through notscience iso, I can't find a crumb for a N1 result.
He left a rather glaring crumb for his role at the start of the game so he apparently comprehends crumbing, but maybe he got roleblocked, visited a dead person or whatever other dumb thing happened.

notscience's iso is a beautiful iso though

I'm assigning it to you as a fourth role model RfS, I insist that you go over to his iso and learn some lines like an understudy. Starting with your supplanting of Sujimichi it seems like whenever one of my favorite players goes away you're somehow responsible so take responsibility by becoming a method actor in notscience's mold.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
I don't actuall think I wanna go there today, I just want to cause Fredrick to post a votecount so I can like visualize the gamestate

These were my results crumbs

[Isis]

I found Hoopla!scum and RfS scum this game so I would really appreciate if one of my teammates could find the final scum for me because choosing between Una and gera is tricky

unfortunately all the people that would be helpful for figuring it out based on setup spec are dead
Not_mafia might be good at that idk, I just don't think it'd excite him
gera kind of seems to say he's not very mechanical based on him googling roles and stuff
Una is probably really smart at that stuff but he is the one with the wonky role I'm trying to figure out is either a conftown or confscum claim

I guess RfS taking the angle he's taking here implies that scum in this setup genuinely don't expect this setup to have yet another investigative role, so the concerning element of "did he claim commuter just to explain away possible invests revealed this phase" should maybe go away

[Isis]

Gera, say you execute N_M, he flips scum, the mafia no kill, and you go to the next day phase and Frederick says no No Executing

Who are you voting?

Well....not sure being honest. I want to vote not mafia, suspect it is like 70/30 to be right. Tonorrow is a day away. I hate the push towards replacement. Fear my interagency is going to cost us now, but feel as town has pretty much had no successful hits on any day on any jnfo the roughly 25% chance we have left seems fair

I guess
gera seems really earnest and did seem really earnest yesterday
but Una seems pretty earnest too
and gera is going for killing my innocent result here
I think I just vote out gera and RfS here
The main question is whether N_M and Una join me I guess

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 5's First Votecount

Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Isis
Isis (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
geraintm (0):

Not Voting (3): UnaBombaH, Not_Mafia, geraintm

With 5 voters, 3 votes are required to execute.

Day 5 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-08-29 05:45:00).

[UnaBombaH]

Huh.
So an actual guilty claimed on RfS?
I need to not over think this I guess, and just be happy that Isis has a guilty on the one slot I would've liked to vote for anyway?
I'm off to do my coaching stuff today, and will be back tomorrow. Before I lay down my vote, I'd like to see geras take on this.
Because we can't just test a flip anymore, and if gera buys what Isis is selling, it would almost certainly imply scum!Una to gera. (which I'm obviously not)
I'm more concerned of the possibility of a Ninja.

[UnaBombaH]

So realistically..?
RfS+gera/Una
Isis+N_M
RfS+N_M (Ninja?)

I mean.. With Isis results, it's basically narrowed down to these options, right? I think everything else would be a stretch.

[UnaBombaH]

Before I go, the only negative thing about Isis here is that I do not like those crumbs. I don't think they are clear enough, but that isn't AI unless they are straight up lying anyway, so..

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: RfS

[Isis]

The role crumb or the results crumbs? Role crumbs should be obscure, you only prove that you contemplated the role during D1. As scum you could crumb 4 or 5 roles vaguely and that's fine. If you crumb it as clearly as notscience that's obviously dumb and a way to get shot.

For the results crumbs, their suckitude is proportional to how important they are. When notscience visited Hoopla I thought like a really long time about what that means for scum! and town! notscience and realized it kind of nets out to zero. So I didn't mind that my crumb might be mistaken for genuine NK spec because clearing him off of it after I died might be wrong anyway.

For Not_Mafia's again it didn't clear him so I would rather shift more towards hiding that I am results crumbing (and look, I survived to this phase in spite of decorating Hoopla's wagon with bells and sequins and only got roleblocked one night). Now that I've been roleblocked, it actually clears him.. all's well that ends well

The RFS crumb is really clear, I told him to "go to notscience's" iso and that I hold him responsible for notscience's death idk how much thicker can I lay it on what do you want "nothing to do with this game but I had a dream about a ninja stabbing notscience with a katana btw I'm vt"??

I posted that I was enthusiastic about crumbs this game so people would be unlikely to go "let's not look she probably wouldn't bother crumbing".

I guess maybe I should have done more effort on the N_M crumb mainly, it keeps him from claiming PR in massclaim if I die I guess, whatever, I was excited about voting scum that day.

[Isis]

if you are like "the role crumb is brief and clippy enough there could be 10 others like it" that is fine that's my philosophy on role crumbing.

[Isis]

Not_Mafia how r u doin

[Isis]

RfS's typical logon time is in ~6 hours and he will probably selfhammer

I don't anticipate being in eLo

I guess that means N_M is the decider between Gera and Una

Una, don't vote N_M because lolninja. N_M would have been sent to perform the kill instead of RfS during night 2, that's pretty preferable. RfS is probably going to flip not-Roleblocker, confirming that the last scum is a Mafia Roleblocker, and Mafia Ninja Roleblocker is a little wat. This setup is already pretty wat but nsg's tolerance erodes the more the wat-age accumulates.
Ninja in a psychologist setup is also kind of extra bastard because if you base your night action strategy based on which player is the ninja, but that doesn't match the best strategy against the psychologist, it really feels bad. And you're forcing the psychologist to guess who randed ninja instead of guessing who would perform the kill.
It's still not completely impossible but it's better to take the occasional bad beat than to paranoia vote someone with nullish dayplay and super strong mech indicators for being town.
N_M is probably on the townish side of his meta, like Galron said.

[Not_Mafia]

Sup

[Isis]

gera don't vote N_M either but I kind of think you're scum due to pursuing that aim singlehandedly for ages. You should be crossvoting Una

[Isis]

N_M you will be the decider in 3p eLo are you hyped

[Isis]

This game was so weird cause I joined to play with Sujimichi and Hoopla, and Sujimichi replaced out and then I figured out Hoopla was scum so we couldn't be frayends

Una turns out to be kind of cool

Dunnstral was an incentive to join of course but I get to play with him lots anyways

[Isis]

Una do you think this game has a 2-shot compulsive Commuter?

[Isis]

And just to be frank - I am not going to get any friendly visits from anyone this game.
Even trying would be a waste.
I keep my door closed tight.

[Isis]

Una either is a commuter or contemplated a commuter fakeclaim throughout the game

[Not_Mafia]

Confess that I am at the stage of the game where not much people can say will alter my thoughts.
People pointing out votes and quotes from the past might, but bleating now won't.

This is a strange attitude for someone who's constantly saying how flawed their reads always are

[Not_Mafia]

N_M you will be the decider in 3p eLo are you hyped

What if we decided Una vs Geraint today?

[Isis]

Could Una be a scum full commuter who I failed to investigate last night? In this quote he said he's not receiving any friendly visits

this game

[Isis]

N_M you will be the decider in 3p eLo are you hyped

What if we decided Una vs Geraint today?

If everyone (besides RfS) would agree I'm a tracker that saves a lot of time, RfS can just concede if we guess correctly

[Isis]

Problem is I suspect Gera is going to go after the line of play where he insists he's not sure I'm a tracker

[Isis]

My head's not working idk how much of a disruption that is or isn't in trying to play the whole game today