Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Isis]

So, yeah, basically I do agree: from the original setup, drop one of the scum PRS, and add a town one, and we're looking good.

I'm gonna guess Una full commuter theory is less likely than normal if this is this is the mutations mastina usually pushes for in reviews
UNVOTE:
cause maybe we just vote gera here and end it

I'm not honestly sure I like this.
RfS should be the lynch today, and we will see what 3-way we end up with tomorrow.

The mafia isn't going to shoot you or Gera

I mean I won't die on the hill about skipping the last night and last day
But I don't see lots of meaning in going to the 3p eLo

[Isis]

On a scale from Fissure to Surf to Ice Beam to Swift how much do you believe my claim Una, it's more sortable for me to lock you into stances earlier

Gera has locked in "swift"

[UnaBombaH]

On a scale from Fissure to Surf to Ice Beam to Swift how much do you believe my claim Una, it's more sortable for me to lock you into stances earlier

Gera has locked in "swift"

I think the order of your moves is flawed.
Fissure is an OHKO, but it misses more than it hits.
I'd name your claim OHKO if I thought it was a scum-fakeclaim.

[Isis]

Accuracy percent was supposed to be how much you belief me

[Isis]

when i was skimming some stuff I saw that bob apparently was scumreading gera

i am happy to deadsheep that and stuff

I am too lazy to go read it and decide I agree on it

[UnaBombaH]

Accuracy percent was supposed to be how much you belief me

Surf and Ice Beam are both 100% accuracy.
Sure, Swift never misses though.

[Isis]

we can vote RfS then N_M or I get shot during a 48 hour wait and then I or N_M can decide whether Una or Gera is scummier
or we can vote gera and either lose or RfS shoots N_M then either concedes or undertakes the herculean task of arguing I am mastermind scum that bussed Hoopla and Gera and planned a fancy scum fakeclaim all game
or I can go back to being paranoid that Una is full scum commuter and that's why I didn't get a result last night
but I think I'm past that

[Isis]

I thought Surf was 95% accuracy, from playing Gen 1, but that's probably because I used Surf hundreds of times for natural reasons and had more opportunities to observe the Gen1 glitch that gives all moves a 1/256 chance of missing.
Are you at Swift?

[UnaBombaH]

Eh.
If Isis is talking shit, it's obviously Isis+N_M.
Simple as that.
I've had creeping suspicions towards Isis throughout the game, but I've admitted there has always been a high level of paranoia there.

Now, everything I dislike/suspect about your claim.
1. The timing of a guilty is bad, considering how RfS would've been lynched yesterday with a guilty.
Sure, you would've died last night, but we wouldn't be at LyLo right now. So there's that.
2. The fact that you claim a blocked result on me N4(?) gives me pause as well.
Because it fits so well with N_M being town, and still leaves a ~slight~ potential for shade towards me.
Which you already threw in there with that scum!full_commuter-talk.

What I mean here is:
Because you were blocked N4(?) scum have a roleblocker -> N_M didn't move N3 -> N_M didn't commit a kill or a block -> N_M is town.
Plus it lends room for the idea that I'm a scum!Commuter, or gera/RfS has a scum!Roleblocker included.
It's a neat package, and that obviously pokes at my fear of losing to a fakeclaim.

[UnaBombaH]

But then there's this.

I realized later you were probably spending lots of headspace in the universe where we just kill Hoopla

You know, I think I'm rather good at pointing out fakeclaims.
I didn't believe Hooplas claim for a second, and was only willing to admit I was wrong if I was proved wrong.

[Not_Mafia]

Confess that I am at the stage of the game where not much people can say will alter my thoughts.
People pointing out votes and quotes from the past might, but bleating now won't.

This is a strange attitude for someone who's constantly saying how flawed their reads always are

Well, I wrote that on the basis that I didn't think we would have a post coming out that had a guilty verdict on someone. I obviously have to eevaluta the game now. Give me some time as sister and family are arriving for the day shortly.

Still doesn't seem congruent who's always posting about having self doubt and their reads being wrong

[UnaBombaH]

If Isis can just address those ^^ two numbered parts in any way and/or length, I guess I could be at Swift.

[UnaBombaH]

Yea, Isis is a Tracker.
Meaning N_M is town.
Meaning RfS is scum.
Meaning that gera is scum.

[Not_Mafia]

I think I'm coming round to Gera scum and just dismissing Una's role as "wtf are normals these days", back in the day I ran Town Neapolitan, Two Masons + 3 Goons and my reviewers were worried town could be overpowered, now I'd probably have to add 2 PRs to town for it to be considered balanced

[UnaBombaH]

If N_M and Isis feel like they are willing to "risk" it by voting gera, I'll join.
I don't want to lose this because of my pride and fear of losing to Isis here.
I always say I'm not a prideful person, but honestly it's just more about managing the feeling and not letting it overpower logic.

[Isis]

Sure, you would've died last night, but we wouldn't be at LyLo right now. So there's that.

My play has already been demonstrated to be superior, because I cleared N_M last night by getting roleblocked. The game was, fmpov "RfS is scum, but now we need to execute in {gera, bob, Bella, N_M, Una} correctly to win the game. Wrongly guessing Bella was a step that had to happen earlier or later in this process. But since I didn't out, I have cheated a step in this process and changed it to find the scum in {gera, bob, Bella, Una} (with bob and Bella dying as natural parts of the process of course)

If I outed it would have stayed the harder problem, find it in {gera, bob, Bella, N_M, Una}

The day that eLo occurs is irrelevant

[Isis]

VOTE: geraintm

[Isis]

I doubt I'm good enough at mafia to reread this game until I realize the player who's fought to kill my clear for multiple days is actually town

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 5's Third Votecount

Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Not_Mafia
Isis (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
geraintm (1): Isis
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):

Not Voting (2): UnaBombaH, geraintm

With 5 voters, 3 votes are required to execute.

Day 5 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-08-29 05:45:00).

[Isis]

skimming completed normals it looks like half town wins so I guess towns just suck and all.

maybe I suck too sorry if my d1 read was wrong and Una is masterclass gera

[Isis]

lol not how eLo VCs are supposed to look heh

[Not_Mafia]

If N_M and Isis feel like they are willing to "risk" it by voting gera, I'll join.
I don't want to lose this because of my pride and fear of losing to Isis here.
I always say I'm not a prideful person, but honestly it's just more about managing the feeling and not letting it overpower logic.

https://youtu.be/89ZfbX4Rdzw?t=56

[Isis]

Are you wanting to go for it or hear from gera N_M?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: geraint

Please lord, lest me be a fool

[UnaBombaH]

I think I'm coming round to Gera scum and just dismissing Una's role as "wtf are normals these days"

"wtf are normals these days"

"wtf are normals these days"

Well, from my latest games.

The setup would've been 1xIC, 1xMiller and a "red herring"-role to screw with peoples heads on flip?
Doesn't seem any less weird than an additional Miller and a Rolecop on top.

I do not EXPECT to run into a setup like this ever again, but that wasn't the first time on site with two Millers in the game.

What the actual fuck.
It was really just a 11:2?

So I just avoid any and all setup-spec nowadays.
Trying to enjoy the game no matter what bs-role I end up having, has become a metagame of its own.