Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[Looker]

I suspect a scumteam, I'm paranoid.
I challenge an approach, it's AtE.
I use odds, I'm relying too heavily on math.

What exactly am I missing about this 'mafia' thing?

[Dunnstral]

Don't like the early osuka claim.
Also don't like the Looker AtE.

Lookers EoD posts tho.

VOTE: osuka E1

I ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD! DUNNSTRAL'S ARRIVAL! WITH THIS CARD, DUNNSTRAL WILL...

He will...

Uh...

participate?

<_<

My Dunnstral townread is fading my dudes.

VOTE: Looker

[Titus]

With all due respect, Ms. Murderfucker, I don't understand your first sentence.

Don't fucking be disrespectful.

What is up with you trying to police me. She says she murderfucks. Therefore, murderfucker.

Yeah. He wasn't being disrespectful. He wasn't great in our conversation but he was respectful.

[osuka]

Dunn just lolhammered

nice

[superbowl9]

To get rid of one lolhammer, we accept another such is the yin and yang of life

[Dunnstral]

Lol this whole page is just caught scum having a goddamn meltdown

My drunk ass couldn’t even begin to fathom how big a meltdown this is, it might just be the worst I’ve ever seen. It’s kinda funny actually

Dunn just lolhammered

nice

[superbowl9]

Yes
Especially because yall will eat up her VCA in which she points out she bussed her partner who is clearly going to be an elim at some point

What do you scumread abt titus

To give u a quick summary, overkill was doing nothing with unexplored and poor lines of thought, then titus replaced in and has also had poor votes. I don't feel genuine attempts to read the game from her just excuses to elim whoever she likes (VCA is a perfect tool for this)

Poor votes? Deciding to join conftown on scum was a poor vote? Also for someone claiming we shouldn't use vote history, you sure are arguing my vote history was bad.

VCA is actually a horrible tool for eliminating whoever I want. If someone is actually doing VCA, there are conclusions that can't be walked away from.

You want to argue VCA is subjective and useless. Do your own. VCA has been my theory for years. I openly invite challenges to it. I murderfuck anyone who says VCA isn't scumhunting.

I may scumhunt differently, but I still scumhunt. Try to push this Titus is only VCAing when my votes are good. Try it. I live and die by my VCA.

This is what you sound like to me:
"I don't like astrology because I don't think it's effective, and we shouldn't be listening to your sign readings either."
"Well, if you don't like my readings so much why don't you make your own then!!1"

See how that makes no sense?

I can go through your votes and explain why I think they were bad if I'm here tomorrow. However to say that VCA is the same thing as not liking the reasoning behind votes is just false and you (should) know this.

To say that VCA has concrete conclusions you can't spin whichever way you please is also false. This is a game where you can only guess at peoples' motivations, making VCA essentially guess and check. This is even more true because people know that VCA is coming and try to game it on purpose.

This all being said I don't really have a problem with VCA being used to supplement scumhunting, I just don't buy that it is scumhunting in and of itself. If my towniest read is on every green flip then yes I will look at them a lot closer but this is also a game where even the best players make wrong reads every single game.

[Dunnstral]

If that was really a hammer I didn't notice that it was. But hey, I asked him about his role, didn't I?

[Looker]

Well-played, scum. I tip my hat to you and your deserved victory.

As promised, applause.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Hmm suspicious dunn
how convenient.

[Dunnstral]

Well you guys did say to "do something" and we're approaching deadline, so.

[WaltertheDunce10]

That is true.

[Looker]

Murder the whole wagon Including Walter

[WaltertheDunce10]

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 3.4

Looker(5)osuka,superbowl9,Titus,

WaltertheDunce10,

Dunnstral,

osuka(4)Looker,Nepenthes,Gypyx,chkflip,

Not Voting(0)

Gypyx(0)

superbowl9(0)

Titus

0verki11

(0)

Dunnstral(0)

chkflip

Nash

(0)

WaltertheDunce10

(0)

Nepenthes

redtea

(0)

No Execute (0)

With 9 alive it is 5 to execute, and 5 to No Execute.

Day 3 ends.

Looker

was executed Day 3. They were:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Night 3 begins and ends in (expired on 2020-08-15 19:00:00).

[Not Known 15]

Titus

was killed Night 3. They were:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Vote Count 4.0

Not Voting(7)osuka,superbowl9,

WaltertheDunce10,

Dunnstral,Nepenthes,Gypyx,chkflip,

osuka(0)

Gypyx(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

chkflip

Nash

(0)

WaltertheDunce10

(0)

Nepenthes

redtea

(0)

No Execute (0)

With 7 alive it is 4 to execute, and 4 to No Execute.

Day 4 begins and ends in (expired on 2020-08-23 13:49:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

[osuka]

hahah fuck i clearly dont know how to play this game

sorry to all involved

[osuka]

except for looker who made absolutely no decent attempt at staying alive and addressing the points i made

[WaltertheDunce10]

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF
Why am I alive?

[WaltertheDunce10]

kI recovevered from the shock of not being nkd
Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

[Dunnstral]

Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

[WaltertheDunce10]

I also feel that the only reason to not kill me over titus was because they had a scum read correctly.

[superbowl9]

Well fuck

I guess titus was on for the vca or scum is just wifoming? Gonna try to reevaluate this game, my townreads are probably wrong

[Nepenthes]

Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

So scums in Nep/chk/Gypyx for you

[Nepenthes]

Walter was listing the nontown on the looker wagon lol