Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[Jake The Wolfie]

VC 1.14

Jake The Wolfie (5) - Almost50, dramonic, Hiraki, Testarossa, Menalque [E-2]

Dunnstral (1) - teacher
dramonic (1) - Gamma Emerald
Bell (1) - Marashu
Menalque (1) - Dunnstral
Dannflor (1) - Bell
Marashu (1) - Dannflor
Hiraki (1) - Jake The Wolfie

Not voting: Gypyx

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-23 18:40:00) or when an exile is reached.

Bell is V/LA until Monday.

Menalque is V/LA until August 21st.

"This VC is odd. Why are there so many voters not on the same person, but then you look at me and there are 5?"

The townbloc is voting you and you're getting bussed.
We have a couple clowns voting random slots, 2 afk and teacher playing blind darts with his vote


Edit: can we stop saying people are moving down and up without specifying the ladder? I have no idea what yall are even trying to blabber about

"Even if I were either a Sinner or a Werewolf, why wouldn't the other team ote me? It would reflect grandly on them, no?"

[Dannflor]

Dann - catch me up. I don't want to read 48 pages.

dramonic and hiraki vs. menalque

long fight

like fifty pages long

they're probably all town?

dramonic and hiraki really think Jake is scum because of his predecessor in the slot

menalque doesn't but he's voting there because he's frustrated no one wants to eliminate Hiraki

[PenguinPower]

Why are you voting Marashu?

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Bell - I'm getting some town pings, but I'm also getting some scum pings from this slot. I want pressure here to help sort. I don't know if it's because he's V/LA until Monday, but a lot of his posts feel like fluff and don't really contribute anything. Also not a fan of his intent to park a vote on Hiraki and not move it for the rest of D1.

Primarily for this post, which came after apparently doing a reread of the game and organizing his reads.

His previous pushes/votes read largely like he was going through the motions of asking a few questions but never really following up with how his read changed.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Marashu

[Dannflor]

If you do get a chance to read, maybe skim TripleHaven's ISO and see if you have an opinion on that slot being the leading wagon since early on in the game.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I have an opinion of that wagon simply because it's been the only major wagon so far.

[Dannflor]

Hiraki and Dunnstal have both gotten to 3 votes at various times as well, but I don't think another wagon has grown larger than that

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry about my absence
Some other stuff caught my fancy for the past few days.

Will read (maybe) soon

[Marashu]

And why are you declaring your intention?

Both so people can see my thought process and to air it out to help me evaluate it, in case there is something I'm either overlooking or reading too deeply into.

Take it as a request to direct your attention there so I can see if i’m off base with my read of him then.

How is this different than what I said?

And not blind. I actually think Maru is definitely within his scum register (though I’m not sure he has a town register)

So you should at least be somewhat aware that my town game would be underdeveloped compared to my scum game.

VOTE: Bell - I'm getting some town pings, but I'm also getting some scum pings from this slot. I want pressure here to help sort. I don't know if it's because he's V/LA until Monday, but a lot of his posts feel like fluff and don't really contribute anything. Also not a fan of his intent to park a vote on Hiraki and not move it for the rest of D1.

What is your read on Hiraki? I don't really see a definitive stance by you on him

I'm curious why you'd be bothered by a vote on someone you haven't really sorted yet

Hiraki's tough to read, but my impressions are the AtE does not really sit well with me. That said, I really agree with 925. It could be SvS (different teams - I don't think they're the same team) or maybe it isn't, but it at the very least was more helpful to town than I feel Jake has been.

Basically, I saw that we had a week left. I had a slot that I was having a hard time with. I was choosing to use that time to try and work out that slot. If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.

VOTE: Jake - E-1

[Bell]

I see, what do you think of the votes on you?

[Dunnstral]

"Even if I were either a Sinner or a Werewolf, why wouldn't the other team ote me? It would reflect grandly on them, no?"

Not sure what this argument is supposed to be? Can you argue that you're not a sinner or a werewolf instead of saying the other team is pushing you

[PenguinPower]

If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.

What informationdo you think we're going to get out of the flip that's worth ending the day early?

[Dunnstral]

I didn't think jake's predecessor was scummy, not he's acting like bait for the elimination

[Dunnstral]

And why did Marashu move there?

[Dannflor]

Marashu, did you work anything out about Bell?

[Menalque]

this is a very welcome addition

who should I vote for PP

[Menalque]

UNVOTE:

[Jake The Wolfie]

...Basically, I saw that we had a week left. I had a slot that I was having a hard time with. I was choosing to use that time to try and work out that slot. If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.

VOTE: Jake - E-1

"Pray tell, what information would you get from me, exactly?"

[Menalque]

well like, ur alignment would show bro, so we'd know if you were town or scum

[Menalque]

if Jake flips scum: I get killed tomorrow and am freed from this game and Dramonic and hiraki look really dumb for calling me scum and I get to crow about how if town they were totally wrong

This doesn't even make any sense AT ALL.

How ON EARTH would they "look really dumb" provided Hake flips SCUM??? And how would they be "totally wrong" in this case, even if you flip town next?

Listen, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS GAME specifically, but your playstyle is weird and you seem to always manage to get dig yourself ditches that you then struggle to get out of.

First: You ONLY trust your own reads, and it's hard for you to see thing from someone else's PoV (even if they were mod-confirmed).

Second: You go "all in" on one read which makes you look really bad if they flip green.

Third: This here quote looks very much like it could be designed to fall back to when/if hake flips scum. "Would I have said that as scum who knew Jake would flip scum? Why would I suggest we kill me next when the team is of only 2, thus we get eliminated?"

I am NOT saying this is the case. I am pointing out it "could be" and you seam to always do stuff like that (my past experience with you).

But that's only of Jake flips scum. What if he flips town? You sill look worse than anyone who pushed him, and -certainly- anyone that defended him and refused to vote him.

In short: If you're town, you're not helping. If you're scum, you're doomed.

I do apologize if this comes across as a harsh attack, but trust me.. if I was scum here it's be VERY EASY for me to set you up as the next elimination regardless. I won't even care if you were on the opposing team, because the push on you would be so easy it makes sense to come from just about ANYONE at all.

Again, SORRY. I just.. like your company but not at all your play "as of late". (I guess that's as close as I can phrase it without actually crossing the lines)

re: 1161 for A50

I think you have like a really flawed view of how I approach games, and I think saying that I only trust my own reads is indicative of that because that's like, deeply not true

it probably would be quite easy to set me up as the next miselim tbh because I no longer care about this game so I won't argue with that

you maybe have a point that I look like I'm going "all in" on a read when I'm not, but sadly a lot of people miss the nuance

[Menalque]

oh ffs I meant to delete the quote so it wouldn't take up so much space

[Jake The Wolfie]

well like, ur alignment would show bro, so we'd know if you were town or scum

"That is a non-answer to my question. How would my alignment be more informative than, say, executing Penguin?"

[Menalque]

well I guess we'd also get the alignments of whoever gets NK'd so then we'd have that info too

[Gamma Emerald]

That would also happen if you voted out Penguin :susseyes: