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[Andresvmb]

^Side note*

[Iconeum]

As a side not, can someone tell Bob that 1799 turned out not to be true?

[Iconeum]

@Ico Testarossa is practically guaranteed Town, should never be in any POE.

so aldus/npow/hellbooks

might even make sense

[Iconeum]

if massclaim goes as planned, i think this can still be a win sure

[Iconeum]

scum are gonna get stuck now lol

nowhere to hide

[Andresvmb]

Also, why exactly are we massclaiming? Not that I’m completely opposed to it, but isn’t it potentially a day early?

[Andresvmb]

Anyway, it’s 2am where I’m at, and I have work tomorrow. I have been thinking a lot about this game lately so I’ll come back early in the morning. Hopefully by then VPB has stated their result.

[Iconeum]

tbf i'm just waking up and having my coffee

i might change my mind later today but this is getting good :p

[Datisi]

what the FUCKING FUCK WHY IS BILLY DEAD!?!?!?!?

sigh.

i was a mason with billy. billy tracked baltar on night one. i claimed his result so that scum would shoot me. or so i thought.

this is why
(1) billy didn't blink when i claimed tracker
(2) i immediately trusted baltar's claim of PT cop (though i'd be lying if i said i'm not feeling nervous about it being a *scum* PT cop now)
(3) i tried to "leash" baltar's investigation yesterday ("can we talk about your night action? who would you invest if bob town? if bob scum?") because i didn't want another false guilty fiasco.

also notice billy and i barely interacted but we always seemed to have each other as townread/townlean.

also my first post is a crumb. i'll explain that one when i get to a computer in a little bit.

[VP Baltar]

Datisi mason was kind of what I was assuming when he realized he goofed by outing me. The presence of a town PR makes my role substantially weaker, plus a tracker makes it more likely for false positives all around.

That being said, if anyone wants to counterclaim Datisi as Billy's partner, now is the time. Then we can get this 1v1 underway.

[Datisi]

(though i'd be lying if i said i'm not feeling nervous about it being a *scum* PT cop now)

baltar being the mafioso doing the kill and one of his partners being a PT cop who targeted billy night one, baltar claiming his partner's role under pressure but with his actual target on the off chance i'm a tracker fakeclaiming loyal neighborizer, and then scum deciding to shoot a maybe mason maybe neighbor billy over a claimed tracker... ugh i don't think this makes too much sense...

[Iconeum]

(2) i immediately trusted baltar's claim of PT cop (though i'd be lying if i said i'm not feeling nervous about it being a *scum* PT cop now)

this is unlikely because they hit billy, and you know vp's investigation didn't go on billy

plus you also know how much sense that vp cop makes for town to have in this setup

[Datisi]

yes, that is sorta what i logiced out to myself in 2435.

[Iconeum]

i legit didn't see that post

[Iconeum]

billy is such an out of the park kind of nightkill nothing much makes sense other then rolecop or smt

[Datisi]

anyway, my first post this game:

hi all. this is my first game on the forum. [...]

billy's first post in newbie 1945, the first game in which we played together and were both town:

[...] Hi all. This is my first game on the forum. [...]

counterclaims welcome.

[Iconeum]

that's totally a coincidence

[Datisi]

[Iconeum]

also also i really thought i might had you on that previous game where you claimed your actual scumrole lol

[Datisi]

ok, but i claimed my actual scumrole when we were completely cornered (i am still salty about that night one...) and i felt i needed to make a desperation move that would either kill me instantly or be "no way scumtisi ever makes this play" thing. but what the fuck's the play here?

if baltar is town and i tracked him, why do i not murder him last night?
if baltar is my scumbuddy, ??? like what is the point???? we were both pretty townread???? i lock us both in a PR claim?????? yes????????

[Iconeum]

i know i know, it was just a quick though

would've been fun lol

i fully realize it just doesn't make sense here

[Iconeum]

what's the play now, datisi?

[Datisi]

i'm internally debating between "massclaim, then baltar outs his result" or "skip massclaim, baltar outs his result now". however i first wanna give everyone a chance to check in, react to the trainwreck that is this game, and for formality's sake make sure there's no counterclaims.

also i gotta consult the wiki's normal page. a rolecop? i dunno. pt cop is still potentially more deadly to scum than a tracker. first thought is that scum wasn't in baltar's sight, that's why they decided to leave him alive another night, to get rid of the tracker and allow a mason to maybe get guiltied...

[Datisi]

baltar, were you planning to investigate one of those two (npom/aldus) tonight?

I tend to think about my night actions after the flip. I think if Bob flips scum, they will be on the shortlist for sure.

Andres I'd need to really reconsider actually. Realizing my TR on him is notably built on a bob-scum scenario

if i'm right on the above, this is the pool of names that probably contains scum, but that's more assumptions than i'm comfortable with...

[Datisi]

actually not andres, i'm dumb. but he said npom/aldus, and (1) i don't thnik they're aligned, (2) that's still only two names... scratch the above.