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[Iconeum]

Is it with Aldu just about the hammer thing or also something else? I have him in my poe too, however everytime I read through his iso I come out at true neutral and don't really know what to make out of it.

can't help but vibe with this

[Iconeum]

NPOW are you allergic to rope?

[Datisi]

open question to the table: did anyone go from scumreading billy day one to *not* doing that day two? or like suspiciously avoiding him? if he got rolecopped, and they knew he was a mason, i doubt scum was gonna try to push on him... but that still assumes a rolecop which we can't know for certain...

[Testarossa]

I am a bit salty that my meta dive on Billy last night was all for nothing. Whatever, so Datisi is conftown, I think this is pretty much obvious.

Existence of Masons gives Baltar some validity that a PT Cop is in the game. Question is just which alignment. Since he claims to have a positive result, which is apparently not Datisi, he will most likely get verified anyway. However I second Andres' request to Baltar. Doubt there is a neighborhood, these usually can't keep it long enough in their pants and have the urgent need to claim within the first two days for some reason.

It would be hilarious though, if Baltar was just scum carrying out the nk and the whole claim situation between him and Datisi were just pseudo claims based on their buddies night actions.

[Raya36]

Official Vote Count 3.01

Kalanchoe thyrsiflora "Paddle Plant"

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Elimination

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

Datisi

(1): DkKoba

Not Voting

(8): VP Baltar, hellbooks, Andresvmb, NoPowerOverMe, Datisi, Testarossa, Iconeum, Alduskkel

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-24 22:40:00).

Mod notes:

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[Datisi]

testa, do you have any conclusions written from that metadive?

[Datisi]

Datisi (1): DkKoba
Not Voting (8): VP Baltar, hellbooks, Andresvmb, NoPowerOverMe, Datisi, Testarossa, Iconeum, Alduskkel

my god look at this VC.

[Testarossa]

open question to the table: did anyone go from scumreading billy day one to *not* doing that day two? or like suspiciously avoiding him? if he got rolecopped, and they knew he was a mason, i doubt scum was gonna try to push on him... but that still assumes a rolecop which we can't know for certain...

I think it were only me and Baltar who were scumreading him on D1? Baltar's read softened up on D1 in 1113. My scumread regressed on D2 in 1856, because I liked most of his posts + my wagon analysis made it less likely. Don't know if anyone else had an open scumread on Billy.

[Iconeum]

testa if you could like

obvtown or something

that would be great

[Testarossa]

Still think there was probably only one scum on the janko D1 wagon. From my point of view only Ico and Aldus are left. Unless it's Koba, but I am less confident there.

I already noticed yesterday that the wagon compositions on the D2 wagons (or non-voters) were basically the same compositions as on D1. Only noticeable changes are Ico and Koba actually being on bob. I am inclined to say that this fact makes Ico more likely town, because otherwise it would mean that probably the whole scum team would have piled up on bob.

There is a scenario where Ico could be scum, but then it would have to be with NPOM, because Ico's vote moved bob to 5 votes vs 3 votes on NPOM, with me, bob and Koba potentially being left and at least in bob's and my case it would have been more likely to expect that they end up on NPOM than bob. Koba is so-so, need to reread their D2. If NPOM is scum however I doubt scum leave the hammer to them. Going by the interactions between Ico and NPOM and D1 I don't think they are both scum though.

[Testarossa]

Actually not sure if I can rule out Ico and Aldus together, because Ico was against an Aldus wagon (can't remember why though, need to reread too). I still doubt that scum kills on janko wagon N1 and also targets with an investigative (if theory about scum investigative is true) on the same wagon, when there are more than one scum on it. Although the latter point is more speculative and doesn't necessarily have to do something with it. Eh.

By gut I would also say that the fact that the wagon compositions were almost identical on D2, that could suggest that NPOM is town too as scum might have been happy with him as counterwagon to bob. But it's kind of tied to Aldus, because if Aldus is town the wagon on NPOM was all town (only Koba questionable then). Hm.

Might have some flaws, because I am only doing the wagon analysis off the top of my head and not assuming bussing. Basically it depends now on whom Baltar has a positive result. From there on it will be easier to work with.

[Testarossa]

testa, do you have any conclusions written from that metadive?

No, because I did it during N2.

I was mostly looking into his games, because I wasn't sure if his frustration posts about NPOM were genuine and some minor details about him were pinging me where I couldn't tell if he was really confused or just defensive. (fyi the conclusion was, that he seemed to show this kind of behaviour rather as town than scum)

[Testarossa]

testa if you could like

obvtown or something

that would be great

What am I, a robot that acts as you wish when you push on a button? It's not up to me if I am obvtown to you, I just do my stuff and the rest is up to you.

[Iconeum]

testa

open hand/shotgun reads

who's the scumteam/PoE for you right now?

[Testarossa]

testa

open hand/shotgun reads

who's the scumteam/PoE for you right now?

Aldus, hellbooks, Andres/Koba.

NPOM is atm more of a wild card to me, need to reread his interactions with those above. Tbh was originally having Baltar in this poe, was not expecting him with coming in with a positive result.

[Datisi]

am i insane in thinking that andres's entrance to day 3 today was kiiiiiiind of tmi wrt his analysis of me/billy?

[Iconeum]

testa if you could like

obvtown or something

that would be great

What am I, a robot that acts as you wish when you push on a button? It's not up to me if I am obvtown to you, I just do my stuff and the rest is up to you.

take a chill pill
it's my version of saying that i don't really townready you, but can't pinpoint a scumread either

and if you could obtown, that would *actually* be helpfull

[Iconeum]

am i insane in thinking that andres's entrance to day 3 today was kiiiiiiind of tmi wrt his analysis of me/billy?

i'm still scumreading andres' fency-type opening tbh (on day 1) wrt baltar

[Datisi]

weren't you townreading andres yesterday? what's up now?

[Iconeum]

what's up now?

paranoia is what's up now

me rereading andres in ISO

meh

[Iconeum]

*spoiler alert*

i'm probably gonna go carousel read mode for a while

[Iconeum]

like, i definitely scumread andres opening game, but i townread it's later posts/tone

[Datisi]

sigh.

i think last night's track would've potentially cracked this game open, and i'm so fucking annoyed.

[Iconeum]

spicey

[Andresvmb]

@VPB how have you yet to claim your positive result? I presume it’s not Datisi, so your excuse is out the window.