Newbie 2023 - Hedgehogs - Day 3

[Bell]

Why is it a random vote?

[shellyc]

I believe it is quite a random vote; there is no explanation or reasoning about it.

[Bell]

Yes, I have no reason to vote you because I did not say it, thus it is so.

[shellyc]

A question for ya: If you were to summarise the game in a few sentences, how would you do it? My head already hurts from reading the 30 pages of texts.

If we miseliminate today, tomorrow would be LimLo, am I correct?

[Bell]

AFK tracker

VOTES

Bellaphant - not science
notscience - the bulge
Clarity - Andrevmb
WaltertheDunce - clarity
Andrevmb - me

HAVE NOT VOTED YET:

happiJS
jankofan
the bulge

VOTE: happiJS

Probability estimations:

mafia + roles are most likely

happiJS
jankofan
the bulge

Your previous slot owner posted this. They have a statistically higher chance of guessing what roles are in the game and this might have been a role fish since Walter just flipped tracker.

Could be coincidence though. *shrug*

[Bell]

Okay.

Innocent Villager thought I and NS were town. For NS for out of game reasons. He said just before he died, that he was so confident in this because NS was scum reading him that we should still think he's town even after he gets miseliminated. Which was quite something.
NS thought IV was scum for, I think out of game reasons. Or it could have just been that he really wanted IV out of the game because he worried he's get miseliminated later when he changed his mind *shrug*

I had a wagon on Andre, but he had a kinda sorta townie post, so I switched to Nash, not even votes by deadline and NS got his wagon through. I hammered. He did not claim it was gross.

Nash lurked all game. The bulge kind of did too. Bellaphant was present, read walter as mafia just before the day ended and he died.
There was a wagon on walter yesterday.

[shellyc]

So they claimed tracker? Might be a random bait, I dunno. I have no control over whatever my previous slot did.

I'm a townie and I will flip green though. I am a newbie and still getting used to all the lingo and stuff, but I can bring that pure town energy to the game.

[Bell]

I really should have edited that summary.

[Bell]

They could have bread crumbed tracker yeah. Or it might just have been a post. Depends what you flip.
Please try your best to show your towny aura.

[shellyc]

After reading the posts near it, I feel like the NS wagon randomly appeared. It just felt unnatural to me. I am inclined to think there's a scum on the wagon.

Why does out of game reasons affect reads? Metagame reasons? I don't know how metareads are relevant...

I believe lurking is definitely anti town. I like people voicing their thoughts. Bella scumread walter, this is a huge red flag to me imo.

[shellyc]

They could have bread crumbed tracker yeah. Or it might just have been a post. Depends what you flip.

Why does whatever my previous slot owner did relate to me though. Pressure's on. You can flip me if you want, but that's a guaranteed miseliminate.

[Bell]

I can't discuss it, it's just one of those awkward moments where knowledge outside of the game comes inside of it and so they're dancing around explaining their reads on one another because it's against the rules to discuss ongoing games.

I don't follow, do you consider yourself accurate at finding Mafia?

Well, it relates to you because you have the same alignment as the player before you and since I think the previous player was mafia, you're mafia as well, because you occupy the same position in space.

[shellyc]

I don't follow, do you consider yourself accurate at finding Mafia?

I was an ok player at chat mafia - I had decent reads and was often very aggressive in pushing them. I was a better scum player than a town player.

[Bell]

I see. I'm below average in both alignments I think.
Do you plan to reread the game or is the summary enough for you?
I imagine a lot of the votes and accusations that are going to be thrown around will be related to previous conversations and votes. But if you don't have time, that's okay.

[shellyc]

Do you plan to reread the game or is the summary enough for you?

I am heading for lunch soon. After that, I have time to read the game. I will post my reads on all the players and I will list my prefered lynchpool / focusing targets for today.

[Bell]

Cool. Enjoy your lunch.

[notscience]

Wait you voted because our had a post that was titled AFK tracker?

Also yeah given the kill I expect one if not both scum on the wagon

[Bell]

Yes, I did.
And you voted Bella because you said you would, yesterday.

[Bell]

I'm putting you on the BOP list that are so popular by the way. If you don't bus your buddy I'll assume you're scum.

[notscience]

I mean Bella’s probably scum but BoP lists are lame and easy way to shove mislynches

But I digress

[Bell]

I'm kidding, think of it as motivation though.

[notscience]

I’m off tomorrow so I plan to sit down with this game and review the end of day. I usually tend to think scum make kills away from where they are located on the wagon.

Also, given the more experienced players lived there is scum hiding among them that doesn’t want to shrink the pool to hide in.

[Bellaphant]

What is a bop list?

NS, why? I made it clear at the time it wasn't my preferred elim and we'd have elimed anything we could at that point, a day without an elim is just not a good thing..

Your last post as well feels really tin hatty. You are making some quite bold statements without any real analysis as to the whys

[notscience]

It’s one of my markers I like to look for in newbie games. I always found that it was much more common non-SEs get targeted when the other more experienced players are mafia.

Bop is burden of proficiency, basically scumreading or trying to clown me because my reads were off.

[notscience]

I’m townreading bell and Nash.

I think it’s more likely scum are on the back end of wagons like that.