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[Andresvmb]

So unless the Team is exclusively Ico, Teatarossa who I’m defending, and Me, then I’m obviously not Scum.

[Andresvmb]

Of course, you should factor in the odds that Scum are bussing. But, why would they do that when they haven’t had to the whole game.

[Iconeum]

Of course, you should factor in the odds that Scum are bussing. But, why would they do that when they haven’t had to the whole game.

because the PoE is getting very narrow

put yourself in scum shoes

how many more mislynches do they need?

[Iconeum]

it's why i'm not really holding on to my npow read: scum *will* be bussing at this point so a lot of scumreads on him aren't that abnormal

[Andresvmb]

Ico if you think I’m independently Scummy, then by all means. But Scum have been very good at isolating players this game and making them sound crazy by attacking them from all angles. And we have done nothing but get it wrong every time.

[Iconeum]

and for the love of all that is holy

can someone

anyone

please explain what makes testa so townie that it's not in your PoE right now?

[Iconeum]

Ico if you think I’m independently Scummy, then by all means. But Scum have been very good at isolating players this game and making them sound crazy by attacking them from all angles. And we have done nothing but get it wrong every time.

first off: 'all game' is 2 mislynches. It's day 3. We have had 2 mislynches, and have had the misfortune of having 2 main town wagons at EoD 1.
'every time' is exactly 2 times. Not more, not less. It's not that dramatic.

second, it's absolutely crazy that I cannot pinpoint even a single scum slot and go 'yeah this must be it'
not even you

[Andresvmb]

I have tried to do that already. Read 2539, 2540, 2545, 2553, 2556.

[Andresvmb]

How are 2 mis-executions not a lot for you? In most games I play, 3 mis-executions typically loses the game completely.

[Andresvmb]

And also, say you execute me today. Who are you going for tomorrow? And at that stage, are you not completely gambling the game on VPB being Town? Because in the off-chance that they’re not, they *will* have a red check, and it will be wrong.

[Iconeum]

I consider it not a lot, and i don't even consider it game losing.

[Iconeum]

andres if i wanted to execute you today that badly, i'd have voted for you by now

i haven't

there is work to be done but it is interesting a couple players want to get this over with fast

[Iconeum]

And at that stage, are you not completely gambling the game on VPB being Town? Because in the off-chance that they’re not, they *will* have a red check, and it will be wrong.

scum can literally not gamble on keeping a town!pt cop alive

[Andresvmb]

If VPB is Scum, they will obviously be around tomorrow. And you will have to make a decision as to whether to trust the red check or clear, or yeet him. But anyway, I’m getting ahead of myself.

I have a lot of doubt as to whether Alduskkel is Scum. I do. This could be another situation where the Scum are just letting us eat each other alive. But how curious that none of the players I’ve mentioned are leaning towards Alduskkel and instead are landing on me.

[Iconeum]

13 players, assuming 3 scum

if we lynch scum today then we go 5v2 tomorrow, giving us another mislynch to work with

if we lynch town today, then we go to 4v3 tomorrow which would be bad, forcing all town to allign and kill scum. Rough ride from here on out.

[Iconeum]

If VPB is Scum, they will obviously be around tomorrow. And you will have to make a decision as to whether to trust the red check or clear, or yeet him. But anyway, I’m getting ahead of myself.

I have a lot of doubt as to whether Alduskkel is Scum. I do. This could be another situation where the Scum are just letting us eat each other alive. But how curious that none of the players I’ve mentioned are leaning towards Alduskkel and instead are landing on me.

there is literally no point in crossing that bridge until we get there. It might sort itself out.

i'm quite curious how it's possible NPOW is being so widely scumread with no votes on him, and why nobody is wanting to answer the testa townread

[Andresvmb]

I just gave you an answer on Testarossa a few posts above.

[Iconeum]

No, you're scum because

Not Aldus(because Andres is scum and I see them as TvS)
Andres scum(see Above)
Billy flipped town
bob flipped town
Datisi looks pretty much confirmed town
DKK is playing pretty townie
George flipped town
hellbrooks could maybe be the third scum
Icon as I said you look scummier than DKK
janko flipped town
Test could be the third scum
VP is almost confirmed town

NPOW talk about these reads a bit?
What is DKK doing that reads townie to you, that i'm not? Why is hellbooks possibly scum in this readlist? Why could test be scum according to you?

[Andresvmb]

It just means we are dealing with some savvy scum players which reinforces scum!andres

Btw, this is the worst take all game. Right here.

[Andresvmb]

Those “slips” that keep occurring and keep getting highlighted btw, I would completely ignore them. How easy for a player to “forget” that the Scum have Day Talk, or that Hellbooks isn’t Confirmed Town already by virtue of a Mason claim. Didn’t VPB try earlier in the game to ask if the Scum have Day Talk because it wasn’t standard back when he was playing several years ago? Like what a strange coincidence. Look I can do it too. Would it even be a thread on this site, or on Discord? The Day Talk for Scum? I don’t even know actually.

[Datisi]

assuming that . moderator saying there is daytalk means that there is 100% daytalk and not encryptor controlled??

i'm not fully caught up yet but i wanna chime in on this, our masonry has daytalk and we don't have an encryptor. so scum does too.

[Datisi]

assuming that . moderator saying there is daytalk means that there is 100% daytalk and not encryptor controlled??

andres/aldu/testa

andres/aldu/you

andres/aldu/npom

in order of likiehood

wait uhhh koba is seeing aldu/andres as s/s?

also koba if you have something to claim you *really* have to claim it

there are definitely no more PRs and scum aren't gonna lolclaim a PR *now*

[Andresvmb]

Given the way that Alduskkel has been reacting to the fact that NPOM is not being pushed, Ico’s point about their hammer possibly coming from Town earlier in the game, and the fact that they were aligned with Billy yesterday, then the choice really is between Alduskkel and NPOM for me.

The way that NPOM has been twisting facts, and trying to get a silly clear by making the point about the Day Talk, I think I’m wrong, and need to switch.

VOTE: NPOM

@Alduskkel if you’re Town, and you could very well be Town and I was wrong about you, then work with me here. It could be that Billy had a better sense of Scum than Bob since they started the game from the beginning.

[Datisi]

assuming that . moderator saying there is daytalk means that there is 100% daytalk and not encryptor controlled??

andres/aldu/testa

andres/aldu/you

andres/aldu/npom

in order of likiehood

hmm... andrew, if i told you both me and hellbooks think NPOM is town, does that factor into your read of him?

[Datisi]

why are those quotes still there????

also andres*, sorry.