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Andresvmb · Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:55 pm

The way that NPOM has been treating my slot, calling me desperate, ignoring any of the points I’m making, why is that being TR exactly?

Andresvmb · Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 pm

Not to shit on any of your reads, but Hellbooks literally had an anti-vanguard that was all wrong, and I even pointed it to when I made my case that Hellbooks was a soft SR. You guys might just be confirming each other’s views, and way off.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 pm

To it*

Datisi · Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:59 pm

then why are you appealing to confirmed town (billy) when pushing for NPOM when it obviously doesn't play a part?

pedit: lemme go check that out again actually

Datisi · Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:00 pm

well it's not confirmed all wrong

Andresvmb · Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:01 pm

What do you mean it doesn’t play a part? We’ve all been calling NPOM too Scummy to be Scum practically, yet they’re still here.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:03 pm

In post 2829, Datisi wrote:well it's not confirmed all wrong

Datisi, it’s wrong. I’m Town. You must think my Scum game is beyond anything you’ve ever seen if you think I can pull all of this off as Scum. I invite you to read any of my Scum games on my home site.

Datisi · Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:07 pm

In post 2830, Andresvmb wrote:What do you mean it doesn’t play a part? We’ve all been calling NPOM too Scummy to be Scum practically, yet they’re still here.

err, i meant, why are you saying "billy (conftown) saw NPOM as scum, maybe i should vote there" but reads of me/hellbooks don't play a part? and not sure what your point is there? yeah, we haven't executed him, and he didn't get nightkilled, so he's still here?

In post 2831, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2829, Datisi wrote:well it's not confirmed all wrong
Datisi, it’s wrong. I’m Town. You must think my Scum game is beyond anything you’ve ever seen if you think I can pull all of this off as Scum. I invite you to read any of my Scum games on my home site.

well i mean, i have never played with you before, how am i supposed to know what you can and cannot pull off as scum... sure, link me a few. can't promise i'll read in depth, but i can take a look.

Datisi · Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:07 pm

also i get that's not the sole reason why you're voting NPOM, i'm just saying, i found the ~appeal to billy~ weird

Andresvmb · Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:09 pm

I made the same appeal at the start of the day. I want to execute between the players that have been suspected by Town players that we know are good.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:09 pm

As in good mafia players. Not just Confirmed Town.

Datisi · Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:10 pm

Andresvmb · Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:12 pm

Andresvmb · Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:14 pm

In post 2836, Datisi wrote:ouch

And I was talking about the dead guys in this game. Not a diss aimed at you or Hellbooks, just to be clear. Like I was re-reading Billy, and it just hit me how silly it was that I was ever suspicious of the slot.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:14 pm

Wait some of those links are broken. I’ll try again.

VP Baltar · Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:18 pm

In post 2835, Andresvmb wrote:As in good mafia players. Not just Confirmed Town.

Have you played with them before? How do you know they are good? Trying to understand this appealing to dead reads as authority.

Also, this game is hard because everyone is on such different timezones. It's 3am here and I just happened to have to get up for work.

The way I see it, the highest probability of hitting scum is in the {Andres, Tess, Aldus} grouping. Like Icon, I don't quite understand Andres' obvtown!Tess posting (yes. I read your wagon analysis. Just doesn't click with me as a way to clear people given there were town on both of those wagons too). The other grouping of {Koba, NPOM, Icon} feels much less likely to hit scum.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:20 pm

Just the broken ones:

Town
https://forum.mafia451.com/t/dbz-mafia- ... n-win/4179

Scum
https://forum.mafia451.com/t/bird-flavoured-mafia/3876
https://forum.mafia451.com/t/mafia-4-5- ... r/3352/211

Andresvmb · Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:22 pm

In post 2840, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2835, Andresvmb wrote:As in good mafia players. Not just Confirmed Town.
Have you played with them before? How do you know they are good? Trying to understand this appealing to dead reads as authority.

Also, this game is hard because everyone is on such different timezones. It's 3am here and I just happened to have to get up for work.

The way I see it, the highest probability of hitting scum is in the {Andres, Tess, Aldus} grouping. Like Icon, I don't quite understand Andres' obvtown!Tess posting (yes. I read your wagon analysis. Just doesn't click with me as a way to clear people given there were town on both of those wagons too). The other grouping of {Koba, NPOM, Icon} feels much less likely to hit scum.

I can tell they’re good by reading them in this game. Bob called out the Masons as Town without knowing they were Masons. There were appeals of letting Bob put his thoughts out there before being flipped because Datisi I believe thought it would be valuable. I’m not just appealing to authority.

Andresvmb · Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:24 pm

Anyway, I will reiterate this point because it needs to be said. VPB, DkKoba and NPOM have done nothing but lead to Town the whole game. Why on earth is anyone trusting a wagon lead by almost all of them is still beyond me.

Datisi · Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:27 pm

oh yeah i just remembered koba apparently has something to claim and i think i'm gonna peace out until that happens

also i need to talk to ico real time where is he

Andresvmb · Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:31 pm

In post 2825, Andresvmb wrote:The way that NPOM has been treating my slot, calling me desperate, ignoring any of the points I’m making, why is that being TR exactly?

I want to encourage all of you to read the exchange between Bob and NPOM between 1799 and 1824, and tell me whether you see any similarities with how they treated my slot earlier on this Day.

Iconeum · Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:37 pm

am here talk to me

please

because if npow is that locktown to you, and i hope i still am as well, your PoE is very interesting lol

Datisi · Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:39 pm

he is not locktown to me

nobody is locktown to me

i am currently yelling at hellbooks in the mason PT asking if she could be a rat (this is a joke if that isn't clear)

Iconeum · Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:40 pm

so datisi's PoE is smt like Andres/dkkoba/aldus/testa for all 3 scum?

Iconeum · Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:40 pm

ok let's not call it locktown

but town enough for you to defend him in what is the most important discussion in the game