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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:17 am

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That isn't what you were saying though? Obviously that makes sense...

Either I've misunderstood or you are eliding
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 am

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In post 799, notscience wrote:Bulge?
Why do you ask Bulge, and not anyone else?
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:20 am

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Maybe I didn’t articulate it the best but that was my judgement while it was actively going on

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Because I want his opinion? I normally try to play off him
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:12 am

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I’ll get to this tonight. Well, it’s a shame I was way off about IV, but their vote on my wagon just seemed suspicious from my perspective. Obviously I was wrong.

I also think it’s a bit early to be making definitive statements about who is Town based on wagon composition, but I don’t dislike them completely. I think the votes that joined the wagon later in the day are more likely to come from Scum, since I don’t think I was anywhere close to making IV the leading wagon.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:14 am

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However, I will also make the point that the Scum could have been avoiding the thread completely if the vote was between two Town. So obviously, Ouroel’s disappearance towards the end of the day is not a good look.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:15 am

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Now, they were completely replaced, so haha maybe not.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:20 am

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In post 747, Bell wrote:Perfectly good town block.
Gone.
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Oh well!
Thanks for being cool IV, Walter. See you in the dead thread eventually. Dunno if we'll win, but I'll try.

@NS: okay. Do you think Ourael fake claimed tracker as bait at the start of the game?
Did Ouroel actually do this? Can you quote it? The reason being, why Tracker? Like why specifically that role? There’s multiple possible variations of this game, a lot of which don’t contain a Tracker. But it just so happens that the Town Tracker flips? The Scum have a far higher chance of predicting the Town PRs since from their perspective, there’s only 3 choices. If the Scum have a Rolecop, then a Tracker appears in the game 2/3’s of the time.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:23 am

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VOTE: Nash
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:25 am

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From my perspective, most of what Nash has been arguing is nonsense. Hence, my vote. And they didn’t seem to care which one of IV or me flipped really.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 am

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In post 774, notscience wrote:I’m townreading bell and Nash.

I think it’s more likely scum are on the back end of wagons like that.
Wasn’t Nash a late vote on IV?
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:30 am

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There’s 1 hour and 12 minutes between Nash’s re-vote for IV, and the hammer. Uhm, how can anyone clear him exactly?
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:39 am

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In post 799, notscience wrote:Scum on the wagon is common logic.

I know I’m town and am townreading two others on the wagon, so naturally I want to look where I’m not townreading.

I don’t think this is a new concept at all and this confusion from bella is very interesting.

Bulge?
In post 795, Bellaphant wrote:In a normal situation, that's fine ns, but we were elim-ing literally anyone as time was running out, and you were literally cheerleading the wagon?

Like, these feels really distanced and not actually related to what happened
nah bella's town now
Also how did we not comment on me getting called newbtown lmao
I think my eyes skipped to the competent player bit because i definitely did not notice lmao
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In post 774, notscience wrote:I’m townreading bell and Nash.

I think it’s more likely scum are on the back end of wagons like that.
Wasn’t Nash a late vote on IV?
he's saying that of the 3 later votes on the iv wagon, he townreads 2 of them, leaving just bella.


I haven't looked closely at nash probably at all this game because idk he was sort of in my peripheral of iv all yesterday. I'm thinking I might not like what I see, but I know I don't like andre's push here
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:42 am

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In post 782, The Bulge wrote:what ever happened to the andre wagon btw? (open q)
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:48 am

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You don’t like Nash, but don’t like push onto a slot you don’t like?
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 am

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Well I guess if you’re SR’ing me you’re not going to like any push I make. But at the very least you should give me
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credit for the fact that I called Walter Town early.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 am

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I did in . And it was a change from an earlier position.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 am

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Bellaphant on the other hand - now there’s a lot
not
to like in that ISO. Particularly , and . And they still voted for IV after ?
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 am

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I can definitely see why notscience is SR’ing the slot.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:59 am

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Actually that’s a better vote.

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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:20 am

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VOTE: andre
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:39 am

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The Bulge, just curious - what makes you so seemingly convinced that I’m Scum?
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:19 am

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Why would I campaign for a wagon on my scum!read, Walter, and then nk him? I'd do one, or the other, as scum.

We needed an elim. I said this to you yesterday, in the post you just quoted as bad, because no one was consolidating. Like...I'm not even gonna argue you should town read me for it because it's just basic. But it's nai at all.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:57 am

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And why would I NK the one guy that had a TR of my slot, and was actually defending me over IV? We can speculate about why Scum perform certain NK’s all day long, but I’ve never found that to be all that useful.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:58 am

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The night kill reads of low info unless someone else saw crumbs I didn’t.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:58 am

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It’s not about consolidating per se actually - I agree that’s whatever. It’s the choices. Walter was Town, and I know I’m Town.
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