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[NoPowerOverMe]

At this point, yes. For reasons previously stated.

[Andresvmb]

And VPB is at {Me, Testa} for today.

[Andresvmb]

Okay then. I’m indifferent between NPOM and Alduskkel, and will vote either.

@Testarossa, I really do think you should vote.

[Datisi]

@Datisi, serious question. Do you really think I’m part of a Scum Team with Alduskkel?

The problem you have (I think) is that you’re TR NPOM, and you’re looking at the game through that lens. I know you recognize the significant uncertainty that read carries, but it’s leading you to the wrong conclusion. Why are you even considering joining a third wagon with the same group of players that have executed Town 2 days in a row?

What you should see, in my opinion, in a successful wagon today, is a significant difference in opinion

from the players in the POE

.

Do you think you’re getting that with me?

do i think that? not really, no. but i also don't think you're *not* a part of the same scumteam. what i mean by that is, i don't have a correct solve. if i did, we wouldn't be here having this discussion and would instead be smaccing scum.

also, i think i've mae it clear that my current strongest scumread (though do not mistake it for a strong scumread, my thoughts wrt this game are amess right now) is alduskkel. i don't get why you're being so... pessimisstic? fatalistic? i dunno. could you please clarify the bolded for me?

[Andresvmb]

If I wasn’t so consistently included in the POE’s of the players I was suspecting, and you weren’t paying so much attention to them, then maybe I would be more optimistic.

[Andresvmb]

Like Alduskkel feels like it would be harder to accomplish, and I can already tell there’s a lot of differing opinions. Now that just seems more likely to flip Scum to me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Maybe you should stop being scummy.

[Andresvmb]

Hahahahaha okay man.

[DkKoba]

if you think aldu/you is such an unlikely team read why dont you push for them? lmao. wouldnt it help ur pov?

[Andresvmb]

I have?

[NoPowerOverMe]

He thinks it's more important to stay alive than eliminate scum.

[Andresvmb]

Yep, you caught me. I’m just trying to stay alive.

[Testarossa]

Reading through NPOM's ISO is like the most brutal rollercoaster ride I ever had. Can't even remember the last time I switched over a dozen times between eliminate and not eliminate on one player. Just why couldn't you have just gone there, Baltar?

I just want to vote him because he was pushing the narrative on D2 that the janko wagon was scum driven and thus keeping attention from bobwagon away. I generally didn't liked his D2, for most of the day he was suspecting town slots. But some takes were just

so

whack. And that progression from 2324 and 2344 to that hammer in 2363. Jfc

[Testarossa]

Something is fishy about the ending of D2.

bobwagon stalls, but is ultimately about to go through and NPOM existed as counterwagon. Then Datisi starts the Alduswagon and once it hit three votes (and Datisi backs off) the sudden swift from Koba and NPOM to bob and hammering him, even although Koba was announcing they want to hammer. Can Aldus/Koba/??? work? bob was also thinking as NPOM that Aldus/Andres is not SvS based on their interaction about Ico, I am just not finding the interaction he meant. If their D3 skirmish is no bussing then it would leave NPOM as third.

[Testarossa]

From my point of view Aldus is the only unknown slot that always stayed away from the bobwagon (and I have Ico as town). If Aldus is town this would mean that all three scum must have piled upon bob on D2. This would imply that the NPOM counterwagon urged them to to get the bob elim through. If Aldus is scum the crucial vc was this:

bob3141 (3): Andresvmb, VP Baltar, NoPowerOverMe
NoPowerOverMe (3): Billy Pilgrim, Datisi, Alduskkel
Hellbooks (1): DkKoba
Not Voting (4): hellbooks, bob3141, Testarossa, Iconeum

Aldus tied NPOM with bob. He could have counted on hell and Koba voting bob and Ico has also shown approval for a bob elim before. So a bus could have been safe and I kind of think, if scum knew Billy was a Mason, I can imagine at least one scum would side with the Mason. Works with townNPOM too, which leads to Aldus/Andres again, which I am not really feeling by D3 interactions.

[Testarossa]

I am not really seeing Aldus/NPOM/Andres, so basically Koba is in all my scum teams and would be the safest vote for me. Isn't happening today though.

I need to reread a bit about Andres if it looks plausible how he came around with townreading me. However I am not really getting why he would get bussed here.

It's Aldus/NPOM for me today. So fuck it, I call it a day.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

[Testarossa]

@Ico:
Why do you think that Aldus is town or at least not scum? Just by your poe?

[NoPowerOverMe]

The way I see it Andres and Test have about two of the least amount of Towncred in the game and they are trying to push for me elim so what does that tell you?

[DkKoba]

test already setting me up if npom gets successfully ml'd... u hate to see it...

[DkKoba]

imma be real once i stopped like stubbornly seeing npom as "obv scum"

their posts just all seem towny.

[Testarossa]

I mean I wouldn't even need to set up anything here. I have a poe of four people. If one of these flips town the last three are literally auto lockscum from my point of view, so...?

[DkKoba]

whats ur poe again? -koba

[DkKoba]

oh whoops didnt mean to sign my post LOL

[NoPowerOverMe]

Except that you're scum more than likely.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Which means other than you there are two other scum.