Micro 962: Geriatric Trio II (Town Victory)

[Porkens]

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you've all done something I hate already this game except reck and porkens

I've decided I am going to ignore clidd for the time being

What have you hated about Agar?
Why are you ignoring clidd?
Why are you voting for Bingle?

wait no, not fair enuff. was talking about why you asked the bulge about agar specifically.

is there an easy way to see how much you posted each day? i feelsbad for datisi

~kanna

Wait, sorry, I don’t know how I flubbed this. I must not have looked at the pet you quoted.

I asked specifically about AGar because I couldn’t guess what the hated action might have been, as opposed to the others which I felt were easier answers.

[The Bulge]

Besides 94, can you point me to any instances in your iso of substantive commentary or attempts to advance the game/your reads? (If you want a 'par for the course', I found 2 lines) While you're at it, maybe an instance of me choosing to not engage with you?

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how difficult is it, do you think, to come up with a post like that? do you imagine porkens toiled very long over it?

I'll include a spoiler of what I consider to be game content from me compared to what I consider to not be game content from me, but my point isn't that I've been insanely active and solvey. My point is that while I have done some mechanical speculation (it's kinda my thing) it's not the majority of what I've done nor am I hiding behind it.

Most of what you've highlighted is certainly you saying things about the game, yes. not what I asked for.

I'm also unsure how to quote you not doing something. I don't think either of us engaged the other, (until just now, when we're engaging with each other) and am curious as to why you chose not to if you were specifically scumreading me instead of just voting me.

that's my point. so then why bring it up?

If you're asking about things you could have engaged me over, my stated reads would have been the obvious place to start.

im ok, thanks

As far as Porken's post, I suspect changing the formatting to be more Sherlock-esque took more effort than making the post in the first place and he's exaggerating how much effort he put into it.

Where exactly? the only person I see making those claims is you.

If I'm wrong, I still find it difficult to swallow that he chose to put that effort in on an RVS before reading the rest of the thread to see if there was something more worthy of his time to analyse.

hard disagree, and an increasingly weird post to latch onto so hard given your emerging opinion of it

Lotsa folks high on their own stuff, huh?

KMD, where art thou to explain your Bingle vote more? I tire of patience.

Last couple MS posts have been :goodposting:, waiting to make sure the other head doesn't go and boof that progress for them.

Ayyo Porkens

, why you still voting clidd if clidd's outburst was towntelling to you to the point of aggressively coming at me for binning it as null and not something I care about?

Do you have any further thoughts on 200? the implied town!arrogance comes out of nowhere, and the attempt at minimizing the wagon on them at the end is weak.

eh, I'm waiting for mr Scott to pick at something besides others' flaws in logic before I give them the town stamp.

[The Bulge]

The bit about my hackles is this: If someone finds me scummy, and I am doing something odd, I would expect the person who found me scummy to call me out on that odd behavior. None of them have. Precisely 0 people have talked about how I was defending you, and that seems strange to me.

is there scum on your wagon?

[Porkens]

Michael lock-town.

What?

[Kmd4390]

disagree. His outburst is based on how much he

does care

about the game. He's not saying "fuck it, yeet me a lose, this town is fucked," he's saying "Can we just yeet me now because I don't want to get yeeted in yeetlo?"

Was this supposed to convey that you found the outburst scumtelling?

Thats actually a good point and kind of goes along with my own reasons for townreading clidds outburst. If someone cares about the game as town, they might want to be removed for the sake of the town. As scum, if he cares about the game he just wants to live as long as possible. Why would scum ever think "this town is fucked" in a negative way if they care about the game?

[Porkens]

“Say” not “think”.

The outburst was ATE and LAMIST.

[The Bulge]

I still think we would all benefit from forgetting about clidd's earlier posting for the time being and get him putting out new fresh shit

[Porkens]

I'm kind of coasting right now, I don't feel very energetic.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Michael lock-town.

[Porkens]

^clidds freshest shit

[Porkens]

Fuck it VOTE: bingle

Y-1

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote ugh never mind.

I’m lost.

[The Bulge]

^clidds freshest shit

probably pretty easy to coast if half the thread is talking about a post from page 5 made almost a week ago

[Kmd4390]

“Say” not “think”.

The outburst was ATE and LAMIST.

So it was fake but still shows he cares?

[Porkens]

I don’t know what you mean by “fake.”

[Bingle]

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We know nothing on where Bingle actually stands on Porkens yet the name has been brought up a few times. I don't know, it just feels like Bingle is trying to give us a lot of words without rocking any boats.

Next, Bingle gives some scum reads but it's just the wagon and the guy voting Bingle. So... I really don't see anything more than surface level stuff here. It's also scum reads on about half the game. If a wagon pops up, Bingle really hasn't given us ANY he'd be unwilling to join except maybe clidd.

This caught my eye too:

As far as the wagon on me, I'm not particularly worried, nor will it influence the way I play the game.

It was unprompted so it seems like feeling the need to acknowledge the wagon and it seems like a downplayed way to say "I don't feel any pressure". It just feels unneeded.

:thorface: Was this an attempt to see how many blatant lies you could squeeze into a post?

First of all, I've been pretty up front that I'm scumreading Porkens, but looking to firm up my read there. The fact you can't get that from my ISO makes me wonder if you've read any of 63, 94, or 176. You know, the posts you're specifically referencing here. Second of all, yes, I would be willing to wagon most of the thread right now. Would you not be? Why would you not be? Third, the accusation that I haven't given any townreads is untrue (15, 34, etc.). Finally, your "unprompted" statement was not only prompted by clidd, but you literally snipped the quote of the prompting from the post in order to make that point.

For reference: the full quote that KMD didn't link to.

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Bingle is E-2, is he going to say something ?

Say it with me now... Geriatric. You should probably go read the linked Geriatric rules in the OP, because you seem to completely misunderstand them.

As far as the wagon on me, I'm not particularly worried, nor will it influence the way I play the game.

VOTE: Porkens

VOTE: KMD

@Bulge: In the interest of brevity I'm not going to quote/respond here.

I outright admit most of my early content wasn't particularly strong in the realm of substantive commentary, and if that's your problem with it, fair enough. I brought up your lack of engagement with me as an attempt to get insight into your thought process, and, you know, engage with you. 182 is where Porkens talked about the effort that went into his Freudian analysis, but I frankly agree with him that further analysis there is a waste of both of our times. I questioned it, he responded with an answer, and I found that answer unsatisfactory. If he's lying, he's not about to jump up and admit to it, and I'm not suddenly going to find the answer satisfactory. I also disagree with there being implied town arrogance in my 200 as I made a point of the context there being Datisi seeing me in an uncommonly strong showing as the reason his treatment of me is town indicative. I also do, very much, believe that there is at least one scum on my wagon.

What do you make of KMD's 224?

[Sou and Kanna]

re: michael scott's 222:

bugs repped out as town in a game i recently modded, sure (and yeah, i do remember it), but there's a key difference between that rep out and this that i think is adding on to *this* one being +scum: i am a player in this game, and not a moderator. if you were to metadive further, here's what you'd find: bugs and i have 5 completed games on the site. i read them correctly in 4 out of those 5 games, only messing up in the first one. our second to last game (micro 932), i correctly scumread bugs on page four. our last game (micro 951), i correctly scumread them

on page one

. if bugs is scum, i *will* figure it out, and they know it.

my read wasn't based *just* on the rep out, though. what i told bugs after games is that what would ping me about them is lack of game-related content. town!bugs, as ~goofy~ as they are, show a genuine interest in solving the game. and their reads in 27 and 38 seemed like busywork that didn't come from a place of gamesolving but skating by - townreading reck for hating their chess post? or scumreading me for? "scumreaing" them in my jokelist? even though it's an obvious joke? i tried to probe, figure out if *maybe* there is some sorta mindset i'm just not getting, but...

But beyond that, I don't think it would be easy for scum!Bugspray to fake a thought process like "also kinda sr clidd because while its very tonally similar to the clidd~town i know im p sure this is a different one". Bugspray is basically admitting here that they think that Clidd's tone is similar to the town!Clidd that they are used to, but at the same time, Clidd somehow feels "off" to them despite the tone being "right".

you know what's really funny about this? scum!bugs used similar reasoning in their read on a town player before

~sou

pedit: acknowledging bingle posted *something* but i'm not reading that right now.

[Sou and Kanna]

i think bingle is townie. 200 is more-or-less what i had in mind about bingle's read on my slot. also i Vibe with 239, and i don't think bingle is a good execution.

VOTE: kmd

The bit about my hackles is this: If someone finds me scummy, and I am doing something odd, I would expect the person who found me scummy to call me out on that odd behavior. None of them have. Precisely 0 people have talked about how I was defending you, and that seems strange to me.

could you elaborate (further) on this thought? or like, i do agree it's ~strange~, but what do you take it to mean with regard to people's alignments? and in 200 it implies (or so i think?) that that translates into being +scum for our slot. if i'm correct in thinking that, could you walk me through that?

~sou

[clidd]

We should do Bingle today.

[clidd]

I wonder how long I can coast here and say that I'm coasting without nothing happening.

[clidd]

Scum just don't want to push me for ''?'' reasons.

[clidd]

Actually, I'm more sure on Michael/Porkens/Bulge being town.

Not so sure on Reck anymore.

I don't know about Kanna, KMD, Agar.

But Bingle is probably scum

[Porkens]

Are you trying to run yourself out of reserve posts so you have an excuse not to post?

[clidd]

No, it's just that I lost the pace of this game because of other parallel games.

[clidd]

Maybe I'll do some wallpost in later days (If I'm alive).

[clidd]

Well.. Not as if I'm thinking about living to see lylo, of course.