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[Menalque]

like not to say he's defintiely scum, but I think him producing decent tone is probably a bad reason to TR him specifically in a way it wouldn't be if he was a newbie

I may also be totally ass backward here tho, again, I haven't closely followed this game

[bob3141]

This is why no player should ever think im scum if vt flips day one.

I had billy, datisi and hellbrooks. And i had baltar pegged as either town pr or scum


Nearly every scum game i hit town pr night one. Only missed twice. The first where we kept the masons alive. and the second we tried to kill a player with a sole read on my buddy

[bob3141]

With the first 3 as both sure town and top picks for town pr

[Billy Pilgrim]

This is why no player should ever think im scum if vt flips day one.

I had billy, datisi and hellbrooks. And i had baltar pegged as either town pr or scum


Nearly every scum game i hit town pr night one. Only missed twice. The first where we kept the masons alive. and the second we tried to kill a player with a sole read on my buddy

Do you mean night 1?

[bob3141]

yep

[Menalque]

and assume those two are correct, then scum is 3 out of koba/testa/aldus/andres? what team fits there??

...aldus/Andres/dk?

[Menalque]

The first where we kept the masons alive

I remember that one

[Menalque]

This is uhh actually probably quite useful to bear in mind in future games with bob, noted

[bob3141]

The first where we kept the masons alive

I remember that one

were you in my first scum game or do you mean the one with luv,smart, flubber mason team. Killed neap night one that game. spotted all the pr but was wrong on what flubbers role was.

The one we kept the mason alive was in 15p large. 3 goons vs 3 masons and motion. In that game the masons and teh scum powered through the town

we spotted 2 of the masons day one. i spotted the motion day 2.

[Menalque]

Err it was definitely S_S, I can’t remember who else was mason?

It also had fark and PP in it and tris moderated. It was a mini normal and you lost in 3-4p mylo/lylo because there was a backup mason, I think

[Billy Pilgrim]

This is uhh actually probably quite useful to bear in mind in future games with bob, noted

I thought the same thing.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Man if NPOM ends up being scum I'm gonna be insufferable in the post-game. If he's town I'll happily eat my crow like I'm used to anyway.

[jankofan]

don't mind me but my heads at my heads at ico/dusk/testa

[bob3141]

tests not likely scum. Since baltar hasnt been counter claimed now that the masons have claimed. That prety much makes him sure town.

That means apart from ico all the those on snows first wagon were all town. Makes it far more likely scum were after more roleclaims. Plus it is better to leave a town motivated town wagon to later and focus on makign extra mislynches

[bob3141]

It was this one i was referring too. The dead thread, mason thread and mafia thread are quite a funny read

[bob3141]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=79480

[bob3141]

yep baltar is prob scum. Suprised he hasnt got heat yet for his role claim.

3 masons plus tracker. With pt cop ontop is not balanced

[Billy Pilgrim]

yep baltar is prob scum. Suprised he hasnt got heat yet for his role claim.

3 masons plus tracker. With pt cop ontop is not balanced

No way to balance that through power on the scum team?

[bob3141]

its more that the balance is unlikely

Your talking 5 pr for town. Of which 3 are 3 mason team.

scum would need 2 decent pr

roleblockers are out as most of town power is masons. tracker and watcher are out for the same reason

PT cop would be a repeat. So unlikely
No evidence of any neighbourizer.


roles like rolecop are in but cant see scum having more than one

[bob3141]

If Pt cop gets one clear. And vt/vt die during day/night one. Your talking about 1 confirmed town gettign to 3p lylo and good chances of 2.

[bob3141]

And ive just seen who made the setup. Shadd does not like pt cops in his games

[bob3141]

if i had known setup was from shadd when i was alive. I would of called baltar out

[bob3141]

not in his not use list but still in his bottom list of roles. So occam's razor.



More likely baltar is just gutsy scum that got caught.

[bob3141]

atleast datisi is prob right on powers. His hammerign of me is somethign he did as town last game. I think the issue is he still thinks baltar is town not realising that his role claim is serously questionable. The sheer power of 3 masons with on being a tracker would rule out any other prs. The questionable nature of him visiting hellbrooks. Some he said was a strong town read. You dont cop your strong town reads but your scum and null reads.

How is baltar still alive.


The fact that baltar is pushing tess prety much makes him sure town.

[bob3141]

atleast datisi is prob right on powers. Poweers hammering me is somethign he did as town last game. I think the issue is that datisi still thinks baltar is town not realising that his role claim is serously questionable. The sheer power of 3 masons with one being a tracker would rule out any other prs. The questionable nature of him visiting hellbrooks. Someone he said was a strong town read. You dont cop your strong town reads but your scum and null reads.

How is baltar still alive.


The fact that baltar is pushing tess prety much makes him sure town.