Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[dramonic]

Also that last Bell post this was a cardinal sin but ill ignore it cuz its too much energy for little return

[Bell]

Engaging with scum is mostly white noise.

By talking to Jake are you saying that he's not scum here, or?

[TemporalLich]

Menalque is being replaced.

[dramonic]

@Bell: I'm gonna assume you're intentionally playing stupid.

[Bell]

Okay I think I’m at like

Dann, teacher - town
Umlaut, haven
Testa - townlean
Dunn - basically null but marginally above the other two
Gypx, A50 - null
Crush - true null
Dram - scummy
Hikari - scum

Dann, teacher
Umlaut, testa, dram
Triple, marashu
A50
Gypx, dunn
Gamma
Hiraki

Went down slightly

Has your read on Jake's slot evolved at all since TH replaced out?

I think that his entrance is prob +town?

Idk I think bell was going back and forth with me on this, but I’m somewhat doubtful that Jake reps in as top wagon and thinks “yes, this is an optimal game for me to do my gimmick in!” As opposed to doing tryhardy posting

Flip side, despite being committed to the gimmick he has been kinda tryhardy

Mostly a big fat idk. I think you had a point that I don’t have town!meta on haven to make a comparison to, but she just felt townie and I like, hate the pressure on that slot apart from testa (And tbh testa’s vote there coupled with low activity is the main reason testa isn’t in my top tier of TRs)

Down to I don't know (but not confident).

(mara, dunn, testa, Jake) ~(hiraki > A50) ~~(PP > bell/gamma) ----- dram > teacher > dann, me

Bottom of the pile. Could ask about the shift here.

I think my scumpool is now

(Mara, dunn, A50, testa) ~(jake > hiraki) ~~(PP > gamma/dram) ---- (Bell > teacher > dann > me)

Back up a bit. Hiraki moved up too.

[Bell]

@Bell: I'm gonna assume you're intentionally playing stupid.

Kind of.
Oh, Mena repped out.
So much for that.

[Almost50]

*Checks the players list*

1.. 2.. 3,4 .. 5 + 2 more = 7

Come on guys, we can do it. Only 6 more replacements needed.

[Dunnstral]

Maybe we can elim scum now

[Dunnstral]

Once someone replaces in I'll, in a comedic way (or not), say: "guess not"

[Marashu]

There’s always a benefit to fake claiming as scum to out a PR if you’re going down but equally a lot of players just don’t like the pressure of 1v1ing a PR or think it won’t be believable and so they claim VT, and then that can work sometimes due to WIFOM due to it being optimal to claim PR

What hiraki said is also valid as to why it’s somewhat +EV to just stick to eliminating that person after they claim VT

I lost a game not too long ago with marashu scum because I thought scum!him would claim PR and wifom’d myself off to flip a VT D1 instead

VT can be a decent fakeclaim if there's another wagon and you think you can talk your way out of the elim. My take on it is, it's a claim that doesn't really make being scum more or less likely, but following through on the elim benefits town in that it gives the anti-town factions less to work on (protecting PRs both from claiming and reducing scum process of elimination)

As for the game Mena mentioned, I only really won because I had an awesome partner - I was the D2 elim. Mena swapped out of that game late D1 as well, though - I know I'm not supposed to speculate, but I hope it's not something I said. :/

[Bell]

^ Nah, unrelated. Can't comment.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: A50

[teacher]

VOTE: a50

[TemporalLich]

VC 1.19

Jake The Wolfie (5) - Almost50, dramonic, Hiraki, Testarossa, Marashu [E-2]

Almost50 (4) - Dannflor, Bell, PenguinPower, teacher [E-3]
Marashu (1) - Menalque
dramonic (1) - Gamma Emerald
Hiraki (1) - Jake The Wolfie
teacher (1) - Dunnstral

Not voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is currently frozen at 4 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

[teacher]

^ Nah, unrelated. Can't comment.

Look at the ban thread.

[TemporalLich]

RCEnigma replaces Testarossa.

[TemporalLich]

Gamma Emerald has been prodded.

[RCEnigma]

I'll start reading some of this game soonish.

[teacher]

YAY! I may be able to read that slot. Welcome RCE.

[RCEnigma]

Is there anything particularly important to keep in mind when I'm catching up?

[teacher]

I don’t want to skew you.

[RCEnigma]

3 pages in, obligatory gut reads: triplehaven likely town, menalque prob town (that feels wrong to say on a couple levels) Hiraki antitown, dannflor antitown but maybe not the same team. Dramonic not aligned with Hiraki... So maybe town.

[PenguinPower]

hmm

[RCEnigma]

A penguin, a monkey, and an evil doctor walk into a bar...

[Dannflor]

mena is still just town.

RCE talk about why TH likely town when you get a chance? that slot is currently the top wagon