Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

should i just take the plunge and vote dsjstr????

dats i really don't want you to autovote pooky tom in that case :/

Skitter,

I've read all of dsj's scumgames and a few of his longer town games that I linked prior to this.

The difference between him here and his previous scumgames is that he's lasted longer than a few days - in 2 scumgames he replaces out almost immediately, one of them he replaced in on the last day and did nothing, very rarely does he actually play the game out when he is dealt scum and his scum play is very crap.

I also re-read a few of his town games and he usually gets into stupid arguments - but this could be because they are mostly newbie games.

A possible explanation for his play this game is that he feels uncomfortable and out of his depth- however I do not believe dsjtr offering to off himself via lynch to avoid lylo is within his scumrange - his scum play lacks that level of deception.

My worry is that the scum are outside of dats/dsj and they are happy to keep me/dats alive as lynchbait for lylo when they can just jump on Datisi - hence why I think removing me is the best way to clear Datisi's head if he is actually town which I currently believe he is.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I don't know which universe we'd have to be in for you guys to think it's possible that scumPooky spends hours re-reading DSJTR's games to try to derail a mis-elim wagon on TOWN-DSJTR in order to get himself lynched instead.

it's just wild

but since apparently you all believe that its just laloalalalaoalaoler

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i literally said that this felt like scum setting up a low hanging fruit dsj lynch followed by easy pooky lylo lynch for the win and showed you guys how to prevent it but you guys just ignored me and were like ya lets just kill dsj instead lol i cant even

[skitter30]

i'll talk abou tthis more wehn i get back from my weekend vla

[Datisi]

bugs, is the pooping on your lawn some in-joke i'm missing or do ypu genuinely think duck is scum?

it's an in-joke and also i am very suspicious of him

ok, can you please elaborate on that

its mech thats all i really wanna say rn

i don't wanna be seen as RoLeFiShInG but if i'm not mightly curious how you have mech indication duck is scummy on day 1

@raven, do you know anything about this?

[Raven Branwen]

bugs, is the pooping on your lawn some in-joke i'm missing or do ypu genuinely think duck is scum?

it's an in-joke and also i am very suspicious of him

ok, can you please elaborate on that

its mech thats all i really wanna say rn

i don't wanna be seen as RoLeFiShInG but if i'm not mightly curious how you have mech indication duck is scummy on day 1

@raven, do you know anything about this?

No sorry. I was suspicious of duckling at the time I repped in, so bugs being suspicious of him to was inline with my thoughts at the time. Incidentally, this post was one of the reasons I decided to rep in because this was one of the bugs’ posts that convinced me I would be repping into a town slot and I was very happy to be right about that.

My personal opinion wrt to duckling’s role is that I agree with Skitter and not SS or Pooky. I still don’t really see how a marking scum confirms it but I also don’t understand why Pooky thinks that if an mfd happens again it casts doubt upon it.

[Datisi]

this was one of the bugs’ posts that convinced me I would be repping into a town slot

elaborate?

[Raven Branwen]

Hiya Skitter, Lillith. Good to see you guys again. I’m still not caught up but I agree with Skitter as far as being somewhat suspicious of the associative reads this early.

While at first I leaned town on duckling for seeming to advance the game forward, he does seem to be overdoing it a bit.

His read on my slot should be quite informative.

@Dats

[Datisi]

i don't understand how that explains why those posts i quoted made you sure bugs is a town slot?

[Raven Branwen]

this was one of the bugs’ posts that convinced me I would be repping into a town slot

elaborate?

Read my early posts, I was clearly mindmelding with bugs on duckling but my reasoning involved how hard he pushed Skitter. I just felt very confident that this was town!bugs, similar to how I was super confident on a town!you. Had I not had a confident tr on that slot I would have never repped into it. I made that mistake once on a different account where I was unsure on a slot and wound up regretting it, so I decided as a result of that if I’m not super confident on a read on a slot that’s being replaced, I just won’t sign up because few things are worse imo than replacing into a scumslot so I’m super careful as a result of being burned so badly previously.

[Raven Branwen]

i don't understand how that explains why those posts i quoted made you sure bugs is a town slot?

His entire ISO pretty much. If you think there’s a world where I ever would replace into a slot I didn’t hard tr - especially after that experience, I don’t know what to tell you. I just wouldn’t. I also think the fact that I felt good about you and you were also hard tr that slot helped convince me I was likely right.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My personal opinion wrt to duckling’s role is that I agree with Skitter and not SS or Pooky. I still don’t really see how a marking scum confirms it but I also don’t understand why Pooky thinks that if an mfd happens again it casts doubt upon it.

mfd doesnt confirm it - SS trying to usd MFD to confirm it is what casts doubt on it.

[Raven Branwen]

@Dats, I’m very confused. Why are you even bringing up those posts? Haven’t you been hard tr that slot the entire game, so what happened to suddenly cause you to question your bugs’ tr? I don’t understand?

[Raven Branwen]

My personal opinion wrt to duckling’s role is that I agree with Skitter and not SS or Pooky. I still don’t really see how a marking scum confirms it but I also don’t understand why Pooky thinks that if an mfd happens again it casts doubt upon it.

mfd doesnt confirm it - SS trying to usd MFD to confirm it is what casts doubt on it.

I agree with that but I should have asked Micc this yesterday.

@mod, does a hypothetical bomb blow up marking scum or just regular scum? Thanks.

[Datisi]

dsjstr has been eliminated Day 2. He was

Commie Catgirl Coalition,

Vanilla Townie

from Micro 882

.

this happened, raven.

[Raven Branwen]

dsjstr has been eliminated Day 2. He was

Commie Catgirl Coalition,

Vanilla Townie

from Micro 882

.

this happened, raven.

Yes, it totally sucks that we misexecuted twice now and we’re in this position, so if scum isn’t in Pooky/SS, we’re probably fucked.

@SS can you please explain to me again why you’re so certain that mfd confirms tw because I don’t see it. I know you said that it’s suboptimal for scum since Skitter gets to be in LYLO but the fact is that the very existence of a mfd, clearly means that it can get around a bg. Otherwise Skitter wouldn’t be marked.

[Raven Branwen]

Let’s not rush this day. We need to look at every possibility or we straight up lose this, so please nobody vote until we have thoroughly examined this game from every possible angle.

[Micc]

@mod, does a hypothetical bomb blow up marking scum or just regular scum? Thanks.

I can’t answer this without seeing the Role PMs. Can you be more specific about which role and game you’re asking about?

[Datisi]

am i insane for seeing pooky/raven here? maybe i am.

[Raven Branwen]

the mark is designed to get around being blown up by the bomb. they are using it to justify tw not successfully protecting skitter - there is a good chance tw isnt even a bg at this point but im more convinced on flipping ss

So if your claim is true than the marking scum can’t ever be blown up. So why isn’t there a TPR that can get around the marking scum? That doesn’t seem right to me but my mech solve doesn’t fit with my PoE at all because I hard tr Dats, so if Micc confirms this I really don’t know what to make of it. Basically my mech solve is it makes more sense that both bomb and bg are in this setup but I can’t see Dats’ scum so that obviously can’t be right. Nothing about the mechanics of this setup really make sense. We should have a day TPR I think to balance this. I’m going to ask Micc about that post-game because this setup is very clearly scumsided independent of the verification of Pooky/duckling PR claims and since both telling the truth also messes with my PoE, that’s even worse.

[Raven Branwen]

am i insane for seeing pooky/raven here? maybe i am.

This game will literally go down in history as linking me to almost every player in the setup: aldus, dsjstr, you, now Pooky. If we weren’t in such a bad spot now due to aldus/dsjstr misexecutions, I’m probably find this hysterical.

@Dats, dsjst thought we were a team because of you/bugs interactions, then he townlocked me but didn’t change his read on you one iota. I couldn’t see how that wasn’t scummy, given that was his only reason for sr you, so I really don’t understand why you’re questioning my hard dsjtr sr. I still don’t understand how he is town with those illogical reads. I am still blown away by his flip.

[Datisi]

who said i'm questioning your dsjstr scumread? i think that was fine.

[Raven Branwen]

who said i'm questioning your dsjstr scumread? i think that was fine.

Okay well I’m thoroughly confused then. The entire game you insisted that bugs almost executing Pooky made 0 sense if they were buddies and what does those posts bugs’ posts you quoted even have anything to do with Pooky? I’m totally not following. I hard sr dsjstr but was not sold on Pooky scum, so obviously you always want to execute your strongest sr and don’t want to risk misexecuting but like you, dsjster flipping town also fucks with my PoE if the team isn’t exactly Pooky/SS and if neither we lose but unless duckling is lying and no way can there possibly be a Pooky/tw scumteam because that would mean the game was seriously broken, so at least one of them mechwise has to be telling the truth. Had dsjtr flipped scum, I would think both because of mfd mechanic but that doesn’t fit. Something isn’t adding up and I will wrack my brain until I figure it out.

[Raven Branwen]

I think that makes sense that an FN isn’t enough to balance a marking scum mechanic.

[Datisi]

those bugs' posts i quoted have nothing to do with pooky. i was rereading my notes and realized i forgot to ask you about them.

the whole game I've been insisting both bugs and s_s are town. i'm wrong on at least one. not sure why you're surprised i'm questioning you?