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shellyc · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:10 pm

In post 370, Redados wrote:You flipped at... E-3? That's a little soon. You're not that close to being limmed. I don't know if you're scum but this type of play is not helping the town.

You are not lynchbait. Rocknil is the best case for lynchbait right now, if I'm using that term right.

You just said it's protown if I'm scum. Well, as nobody else was closed to being limmed I was starting the wagon on myself. We have to flip someone.

Redados · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:11 pm

ItalianoVD has said that he won't be able to be active on weekends, so I want to hear a full list of impressions and thoughts first thing Monday!!

LavarManos · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:11 pm

Redados, why do you want me to comment on the post of my own slot?
shellyc, I am catching up. It is quite late for me, but i will be sure to get my thoughts in before the deadline.

shellyc · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:12 pm

In post 376, Redados wrote:ItalianoVD has said that he won't be able to be active on weekends, so I want to hear a full list of impressions and thoughts first thing Monday!!

What is this pocketing / buddying of Italiano? That's just plain weird.

shellyc · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:13 pm

In post 377, LavarManos wrote:Redados, why do you want me to comment on the post of my own slot?
shellyc, I am catching up. It is quite late for me, but i will be sure to get my thoughts in before the deadline.

Ok sure. Welcome to the thread!

We have a few days to flip someone. Your previous slot hasn't been contributing a lot at all. I would like you to weigh in ASAP.

Redados · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:14 pm

In post 373, shellyc wrote:
In post 364, Redados wrote:Shelly. Unvote. Voting for yourself is anti-town if you are town.
So you literally wanted the wagon to go on me... and then criticised me for voting myself?

Yes. You are my scumread. I would like the town to lim you. If you are scum, you can keep voting yourself. If you are town, you should unvote.

There was no pressure on you. You had two votes: one from me (which has been there since very early) and one from Fredrick A Campbell, who is in the lynchpool of several players. That's nothing!!! You were not looking like the likely lim! And then you roleflipped for no reason way too early and voted for yourself. Voting for yourself and rushing the lim is anti-town behavior. We still have 48 hours to lim. And again I want to stress that you were NOT the likely lim.

In post 375, shellyc wrote:
In post 370, Redados wrote:You flipped at... E-3? That's a little soon. You're not that close to being limmed. I don't know if you're scum but this type of play is not helping the town.

You are not lynchbait. Rocknil is the best case for lynchbait right now, if I'm using that term right.
You just said it's protown if I'm scum. Well, as nobody else was closed to being limmed I was starting the wagon on myself. We have to flip someone.

Nobody else was close to being limmed because we still have time and we're making a decision.

Redados · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:16 pm

In post 377, LavarManos wrote:Redados, why do you want me to comment on the post of my own slot?
shellyc, I am catching up. It is quite late for me, but i will be sure to get my thoughts in before the deadline.

Uh, because your previous slot had only one post, so I want to see what you think of that one post that your slot previously made.

In post 378, shellyc wrote:
In post 376, Redados wrote:ItalianoVD has said that he won't be able to be active on weekends, so I want to hear a full list of impressions and thoughts first thing Monday!!
What is this pocketing / buddying of Italiano? That's just plain weird.

This is not pocketing/buddying, this is pressure. Italiano owes us more posts and more thoughts. He hasn't been very active this game and he's been slipping under the radar for it. He gave his lynchpool but hasn't been keeping up since then. But he was upfront that he is busy on weekends so I am acknowledging that.

shellyc · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:18 pm

In post 380, Redados wrote:Yes. You are my scumread. I would like the town to lim you. If you are scum, you can keep voting yourself. If you are town, you should unvote.

There was no pressure on you. You had two votes: one from me (which has been there since very early) and one from Fredrick A Campbell, who is in the lynchpool of several players. That's nothing!!! You were not looking like the likely lim! And then you roleflipped for no reason way too early and voted for yourself. Voting for yourself and rushing the lim is anti-town behavior. We still have 48 hours to lim. And again I want to stress that you were NOT the likely lim.

Ok Mush literally said "Is anyone against shelly lim" so I assume I was the lim target. i roleclaimed so y'all didn't need to worry about flipping me. I have no interest in flipping rocknil, really. Why would flipping a lurker get us any reads?

I concede that part of my voting was to check for reactions. I will unvote now. UNVOTE: shellyc

LavarManos · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:25 pm

My first thought is that I like the way how Tatsuya Kaname was pretty serious in trying to declutter the thread. I think scum would like to keep people in the joking mood, and I think I am townreading him.
I also do think MUSHSHAGANA(nickname?) is slightly townie just for being so bold and posting like that.
Redados seems quite eager, but I do not know if it is alignment indicative yet.

Frogsterking · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:26 pm

In post 382, shellyc wrote:
In post 380, Redados wrote:Yes. You are my scumread. I would like the town to lim you. If you are scum, you can keep voting yourself. If you are town, you should unvote.

There was no pressure on you. You had two votes: one from me (which has been there since very early) and one from Fredrick A Campbell, who is in the lynchpool of several players. That's nothing!!! You were not looking like the likely lim! And then you roleflipped for no reason way too early and voted for yourself. Voting for yourself and rushing the lim is anti-town behavior. We still have 48 hours to lim. And again I want to stress that you were NOT the likely lim.

Ok Mush literally said "Is anyone against shelly lim" so I assume I was the lim target. i roleclaimed so y'all didn't need to worry about flipping me.
I have no interest in flipping rocknil, really. Why would flipping a lurker get us any reads?

I concede that part of my voting was to check for reactions. I will unvote now. UNVOTE: shellyc

(added bold)

How did u know mush was town?

Frogsterking · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:31 pm

@magikhorse

if u could insta-kill anyone right now who would it be?

MUSHSHAGANA · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:36 pm

My answer has changed, Frogster.

Initially, it was Italiano. As I said... I have Concerns.

Right now, it’s Shelly. I was weakly, weakly townreading Shelly. This last outburst has made me a lot less certain, and IF it wasn’t sacrificing the vote, I’d gladly see her flip more than anyone else. (But my primary targets I want to save for the vote, she’s like ... number four on my current list.)

Redados · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:38 pm

In post 341, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I will not no-eliminate on Day 1, I will not do it. I will go so far as to say I will self-hammer before I do it. If that’s what is required to get a wagon to elimination, by god I will push myself to the gallows.

Did Shelly sheep this?

(I agree with mislim over no lim though of course, just pointing this out)

In post 318, ItalianoVD wrote:Yeah unfortunately I have been scumread in all the games I’ve played on this site. Even in the other forums I’ve been a part of I am generally looked at as more wolfy than villagery. I’ve been told it’s the way I read people and how I post. shelly, I actually only truly town read 3 players (Redados, Frogsterking and Frederick). I could I’ve been right a larger percentage of the time in my history, but I can still be wrong here. It’s the scumreading I still have a problem with. But those are simply the three players I wouldn’t be comfortable eliminating today.

I'm re-reading the thread and this stuck out to me.
I would like to point out that ItalianoVD was universally townread for the back half of day one in Newbie 2019. So I'm not sure how this looks.

Frogsterking · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:41 pm

In post 387, Redados wrote:
In post 341, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I will not no-eliminate on Day 1, I will not do it. I will go so far as to say I will self-hammer before I do it. If that’s what is required to get a wagon to elimination, by god I will push myself to the gallows.
Did Shelly sheep this?

(I agree with mislim over no lim though of course, just pointing this out)

In post 318, ItalianoVD wrote:Yeah unfortunately I have been scumread in all the games I’ve played on this site. Even in the other forums I’ve been a part of I am generally looked at as more wolfy than villagery. I’ve been told it’s the way I read people and how I post. shelly, I actually only truly town read 3 players (Redados, Frogsterking and Frederick). I could I’ve been right a larger percentage of the time in my history, but I can still be wrong here. It’s the scumreading I still have a problem with. But those are simply the three players I wouldn’t be comfortable eliminating today.
I'm re-reading the thread and this stuck out to me.
I would like to point out that ItalianoVD was universally townread for the back half of day one in Newbie 2019. So I'm not sure how this looks.

In post 386, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:My answer has changed, Frogster.

Initially, it was Italiano. As I said... I have Concerns.

Right now, it’s Shelly. I was weakly, weakly townreading Shelly. This last outburst has made me a lot less certain, and IF it wasn’t sacrificing the vote, I’d gladly see her flip more than anyone else. (But my primary targets I want to save for the vote, she’s like ... number four on my current list.)

i reached that point too that's why i voted in the mid-activity posters because i interpreted it as a sign i had too many false positives and the scum were successfully blending

Frogsterking · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:42 pm

and @redados i think what italiano said is consistent

Redados · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:45 pm

In post 389, Frogsterking wrote:and @redados i think what italiano said is consistent

That's fair, there is just a really nice quote that stood out to me that I remember from that game:

In post 389, SJReaver wrote:Greetings and salutations!

I just finished my first game and enjoyed it so much that I wanted to jump right into another.

I wanted to share my thoughts and feelings so far. You see, I've skimmed this thread a few times! (Mostly to see the strange bean pictures, but I read things too)

Italian-guy
is town - he is the most towniest person in this thread. Open, engaged, flexible, and spontaneous. It's like watching a puppy-dog play in the snow.

---

While I'm here, enjoy some lava flow.

Redados · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:46 pm

I'm not getting the puppy-in-the-snow vibe this game

not that it's AI, but still

LavarManos · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:54 pm

In post 87, shellyc wrote:If I have to flip to prove you right I will willingly champion my own wagon.

This is interesting! Isn't this what shelly did recently?

LavarManos · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:12 pm

I think I like ItalianoVD's early push on shellyc. I have felt similarly in certain games where I force myself to think someone else is scum despite the evidence not being too great. I appreciate him being open about scumreading shellyc mainly because of ego, and I think the whole thought process comes from a town player.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:34 pm

Sorry everyone, I haven’t really been able to get on and be as active as I would like, this is why I’ve tried to get everything into big posts so I can kinda answer everyone. Things have cleared up for me better so I should definitely be more active. Weekends will still be the way they are though.

Bear with me while I catch up.

shellyc · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 384, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 382, shellyc wrote:
In post 380, Redados wrote:Yes. You are my scumread. I would like the town to lim you. If you are scum, you can keep voting yourself. If you are town, you should unvote.

There was no pressure on you. You had two votes: one from me (which has been there since very early) and one from Fredrick A Campbell, who is in the lynchpool of several players. That's nothing!!! You were not looking like the likely lim! And then you roleflipped for no reason way too early and voted for yourself. Voting for yourself and rushing the lim is anti-town behavior. We still have 48 hours to lim. And again I want to stress that you were NOT the likely lim.

Ok Mush literally said "Is anyone against shelly lim" so I assume I was the lim target. i roleclaimed so y'all didn't need to worry about flipping me.
I have no interest in flipping rocknil, really. Why would flipping a lurker get us any reads?

I concede that part of my voting was to check for reactions. I will unvote now. UNVOTE: shellyc
(added bold)

How did u know mush was town?

I didn't say Mush was town. I just said i was the target.

shellyc · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:55 pm

In post 387, Redados wrote:Did Shelly sheep this?

(I agree with mislim over no lim though of course, just pointing this out)

I agree with mislim over no lim as well. So you are saying you are sheeping as well.

shellyc · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:56 pm

In post 392, LavarManos wrote:This is interesting! Isn't this what shelly did recently?

Well, this just means I'm being very consistent.

Nahdia · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:58 pm

Prodding rocknil.

Redados · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:10 pm

In post 396, shellyc wrote:
In post 387, Redados wrote:Did Shelly sheep this?

(I agree with mislim over no lim though of course, just pointing this out)
I agree with mislim over no lim as well. So you are saying you are sheeping as well.

I agree with mislim over no lim. That's pro-town play.

You sheeped the "I will vote for myself before no lim", arguably.