Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

Datisi · Post Post #4125 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:58 am

i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4126 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:04 am

In post 4123, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4011, Something_Smart wrote:If he wanted to claim BG, he didn't really have another choice
only if there were no other bg's in the 70-odd games we're working with
and i think that claiming neighborless neighbor is kinda risky?

I don't get why claiming neighborless neighbor is risky - do neighbors automatically get put into a neighborhood with each other? why would neighbors from different games get put into the same neigbhorhood?

Datisi · Post Post #4127 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:08 am

because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?

ISO · Post Post #4128 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:08 am

In post 4123, skitter30 wrote:only if there were no other bg's in the 70-odd games we're working with

I mean I'm assuming that scum are going to use the mod provided fakeclaims rather than just yeeting out a random game and hoping.

and i think that claiming neighborless neighbor is kinda risky?

A bit. I mean he could also be scum neighbor from the same game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4129 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:09 am

In post 4125, Datisi wrote:i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven

If you look at bugspray ISO - it's clear they are reacting post by post and they vote me when their reread is up to Post 476 - Koba doesn't unvote me until post 525 so bugs wouldn't have known at that point I wasn't at E-1 at that point in bugs reread tho I kind of doubt bugs was counting votes at all at that point in time.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4130 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:10 am

In post 4127, Datisi wrote:because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?

my bomb ability is pretty useless if I claim bomb

ISO · Post Post #4131 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:10 am

In post 4126, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why would neighbors from different games get put into the same neigbhorhood?

because they're in the same game now?

skitter30 · Post Post #4132 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:11 am

In post 4044, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:how r u in the same spot. im alive right now and dsj would be alive instead of me

can you wlak me through again how you went from: townreading dsjstr to wanting to vote him out?

Datisi · Post Post #4133 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:12 am

In post 4129, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4125, Datisi wrote:i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven
If you look at bugspray ISO - it's clear they are reacting post by post and they vote me when their reread is up to Post 476 - Koba doesn't unvote me until post 525 so bugs wouldn't have known at that point I wasn't at E-1 at that point in bugs reread tho I kind of doubt bugs was counting votes at all at that point in time.

because scum!bugs is incapable of lying about how far into their catchup they are? how far ahead they've read? especially if they have a buddy in the scum PT feeding them info?

Datisi · Post Post #4134 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:12 am

In post 4130, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4127, Datisi wrote:because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?
my bomb ability is pretty useless if I claim bomb

you were asking why claiming neighbourless neighbour is risky, what does that have to do with anything?

skitter30 · Post Post #4135 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:13 am

In post 4053, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4050, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:There is no reason for scum-Pooky to make these points and offer himself up to be lynched instead
There's no good reason for town-Pooky to do it either and yet here we are. So we're kind of forced to believe you did it for a bad reason.

this is fallacious

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4136 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:14 am

@Skitter

i got a little bit worried about dsj scum when I realized his posting rate is closer to his scum-rate than his town-rate when I did the data analysis,

then I got more suspicious after he decided to vote me here:

In post 3617, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3585, Raven Branwen wrote: Oh sorry then, I misunderstood. Well Skitter is mech locktown and Dats is damned close to that, so I don’t understand why dsjstr is still voting him when he cleared me but I’ll have to wait for him to answer that.
Well pooky seems to be my only option to not get killed, but I'm not really sure why me seeing you as town would make me also see Dats as town.
VOTE: Pooky

But more than anything I think I just wanted us to lynch a scum because I don't want to lose and it was wishful thinking at that point and I want to believe in you being right.

ISO · Post Post #4137 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:14 am

How is it fallacious?

There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as town.
There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as scum.

Ergo, Pooky did not do it for a good reason.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4138 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:15 am

In post 4134, Datisi wrote:
In post 4130, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4127, Datisi wrote:because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?
my bomb ability is pretty useless if I claim bomb
you were asking why claiming neighbourless neighbour is risky, what does that have to do with anything?

because you/skitter are bringing it up as something that indicates tw!town and I don't really understand the reasoning behind it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4139 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:16 am

In post 4137, Something_Smart wrote:How is it fallacious?

There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as town.
There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as scum.

Ergo, Pooky did not do it for a good reason.

well if you guys had listened to me and lynched me instead you would see town!Pooky and Datisi would start actually scum-hunting and you might be convinced Dsj is town instead of wasting a mis-elim on him.

Datisi · Post Post #4140 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:17 am

> tw claimed something about his role that is somewhat risky and could've possibly made him get executed
> i claimed the same thing about my role
> "hey it's more likely that these are both true"

lke it's not conclusive but

pedit: s i g h

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4141 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:17 am

In post 4133, Datisi wrote:
In post 4129, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4125, Datisi wrote:i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven
If you look at bugspray ISO - it's clear they are reacting post by post and they vote me when their reread is up to Post 476 - Koba doesn't unvote me until post 525 so bugs wouldn't have known at that point I wasn't at E-1 at that point in bugs reread tho I kind of doubt bugs was counting votes at all at that point in time.
because scum!bugs is incapable of lying about how far into their catchup they are? how far ahead they've read? especially if they have a buddy in the scum PT feeding them info?

look at bugs iso and the section where he is catching up and responding to each post as he catches up

does that look fake to you?

Datisi · Post Post #4142 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:17 am

now it's not even being tunneled

now i'm plain not even scumhunting

my fucking god

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4143 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:18 am

In post 4140, Datisi wrote:> tw claimed something about his role that is somewhat risky and could've possibly made him get executed
> i claimed the same thing about my role
> "hey it's more likely that these are both true"

lke it's not conclusive but

pedit: s i g h

can you explain why him claiming neighbor could possibly lead to him getting executed? like I really dont get this part

Datisi · Post Post #4144 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:18 am

t h e y are more capable as scum than you give them credit for

@skitt, you were scum with bugs recently, do you think that's fakeable?

ISO · Post Post #4145 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:19 am

If there is another neighbor in the game, because it really doesn't make any sense for Micc to put two neighbors and not give them a neighborhood.

skitter30 · Post Post #4146 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:19 am

In post 4073, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally,

where did this happen again?

skitter30 · Post Post #4147 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:19 am

In post 4073, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally,

where did this happen again?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #4148 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:21 am

In post 4144, Datisi wrote:t h e y are more capable as scum than you give them credit for

@skitt, you were scum with bugs recently, do you think that's fakeable?

so you think bugscum faked almost hammering pookyscumbuddy and kept him at L-1 and urged the town to lynch him on the first day of D1?

w---hy?

Datisi · Post Post #4149 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:21 am

In post 4143, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:can you explain why him claiming neighbor could possibly lead to him getting executed? like I really dont get this part

are you doing this on purpose??

like
holy shit
neighbour is a role who is in a hood and can comunicate privately with one or more other neighbours
that's the point of the role
and duck was claiming "hey i am a neighbour, a role that can communicate with another neighbour, except i am not really a neighbour becaus ei cannot communicate with anyone becuase i don't have a neighbour"
when he was already under fire
and at least someone was gonna comment "hey... that maybe.... sounds like a lie......"