Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally,

where did this happen again?

pull up bugspray ISO and scroll down, bugs at 1:34am starts responding to posts in game and catching up - his response to post 476 was to vote Pooky - this would've been hammer if Koba didn't unvote Pooky in post 525.

[skitter30]

i do actually think that this is indicative of scum!ss

Lol

city
jk++

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[Datisi]

Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally,

where did this happen again?

Datisi

did you really think I wanted to evict Bugspray because he's been awol in 2 games with me and he was town in both those games but this game he's not awol? Like in what universe is that a good enough reason to evict someone?

my pronoun is they/them
VOTE: pooky

[Something_Smart]

I feel like you just defeated your own argument by only listing scumgames

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can you explain why him claiming neighbor could possibly lead to him getting executed? like I really dont get this part

are you doing this on purpose??

like
holy shit
neighbour is a role who is in a hood and can comunicate privately with one or more other neighbours
that's the point of the role
and duck was claiming "hey i am a neighbour, a role that can communicate with another neighbour, except i am not really a neighbour becaus ei cannot communicate with anyone becuase i don't have a neighbour"
when he was already under fire
and at least someone was gonna comment "hey... that maybe.... sounds like a lie......"

Since we are only playing with 1 role from each game, it doesn't make any sense to me why a neighbor or a lover would have a neighbor/lover partner

[skitter30]

if you need me to have another Obvtown Breakdown (hey that rhymes) lemme know

can u hit me with the cliffnotes plz?

[Datisi]

if you need me to have another Obvtown Breakdown (hey that rhymes) lemme know

can u hit me with the cliffnotes plz?

cliffnotes of what? why i'm town?

[skitter30]

i dont get how neighbor without a neighbor and lover without a lover are in any way confirming of a role

it's not, inherently
and for dats it's not

*however* tw was able to come up with neighborless neighbor just as/just before dats claimed it, so two different people saying the same thing makes it more likely imo

pedit yeah

[Datisi]

Since we are only playing with 1 role from each game, it doesn't make any sense to me why a neighbor or a lover would have a neighbor/lover partner

because that's the point of the role???????

am i speaking english

is this a dream

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i dont see the downside of neighborless neighbor claim, it's just an extra detail any scum could slip into their fake-claim

[skitter30]

i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven

i think it's probably outside of bugs' scumrange with a partner tbh
i dont think they fake that
and i don't think that they try to bus pooky on purpose either

(this assessment is pending me rereading how that incident went down, which i will do once i finishe catching up)

[Datisi]

that's not what i meant by that, skitt
it was more of a "if you want to have a real time chat about the game or whatnot hit me up" because as scum i'm Tremendously Bad and Stressed at real-time interactions and i have faith you'll be able to read my alignment from that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Since we are only playing with 1 role from each game, it doesn't make any sense to me why a neighbor or a lover would have a neighbor/lover partner

because that's the point of the role???????

am i speaking english

is this a dream

let's say you knew nothing about this game except the setup and you were a scum making a fake-claim - is it plausible to have a neighbor without a neighborhood?

[Datisi]

i'm sorry what are you asking?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like if the randomly selected game was a true love game - I'd expect there to be a lover without a lover-partner

if the randomly selected game was a neighborhood game - I'd expect there to be a neighbor without a neighborhood.

I don't see why one confirms the other or vice versa

[skitter30]

I mean he could also be scum neighbor from the same game.

i think if he's scum that's most likely what he actually is, y eah

but then we have a fn, mfd mechanic, possible bomb and that's probably not balanced, right?

pedit i don't think i in a million years woudl have thoguht to claim neighbor without a hood as scum without knowing that was a legit role in this game (i.e. knowing there was a townie who was similarly unpaired)

and even if i had thougth of it, i don't think i would have been gutsy enough to do that unless i was informed said townie was in the game

[skitter30]

How is it fallacious?

There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as town.
There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as scum.

Ergo, Pooky did not do it for a good reason.

well, more the bit that you're insinuating that because it was done for a bad reason, it's unlikely to come from town!him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the mod randomly selected 9 games to pick roles out of and balance them right?

so if he randomly selects the true love setup - there would have to be a lover without a lover-partner

if he randomly selects a neighborhood setup- there would have to be a neighbor without a neighbor-partner.

Since these games are randomly selected - the presence of a lover without a lover and a neighbor without a neighbor is not alignment indicative in any way.

[skitter30]

t h e y are more capable as scum than you give them credit for

@skitt, you were scum with bugs recently, do you think that's fakeable?

tbh, i was not super impressed with their scumrange, and did not get the vibe that anything they did was like premeditated or that they thought about how to further scum wincon

so much as doing random things on a dime

but i don't think they would bus their partner like that either

[Datisi]

except it wasn't a "neighborhood game", it was a normal setup that happened to have neighbours in it and it was a conscious choice to include it

and ~setup synergy~ and the fact that neighbourless neighbour is a gutsy claim = duck probably town on mech (this is not conclusive ik ik)

[Datisi]

t h e y are more capable as scum than you give them credit for

@skitt, you were scum with bugs recently, do you think that's fakeable?

tbh, i was not super impressed with their scumrange, and did not get the vibe that anything they did was like premeditated or that they thought about how to further scum wincon

so much as doing random things on a dime

but i don't think they would bus their partner like that either

/shrug, yesterday you said you don't think bugs "bussing" pooky like that is conclusive to mark off raven/pooky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

since I'm getting nowhere with the Pooky wouldn't offered to get lynched defense with you guys, let's try associatives.

Let's assume for the sake of argument Pooky is scum here.

Who is Pooky's scum partner? Let's look at all the possibilities:


Skitter - Nah she's marked for death


Something_Smart - Koba put Pooky at L-1, SS asked mod a question that confirmed Pooky was lying about his role, Pooky is pushing SS as the lynch.


The_Worst - This would mean there is only 1 TPR in the game...


Raven - Bugspray interaction with Pooky on D1 was: Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally, Bugspray putting Pooky at L-1 for a prolonged period of time, Pooky getting reamed by Datisi for voting Bugspray.


Datisi - LOLOLOLOLOLOL


So which of these players is supposed to be my scumpartner?

hint: I don't have a scumpartner I'm town.

I dunno if you read this post @skitter

[skitter30]

Datisi

did you really think I wanted to evict Bugspray because he's been awol in 2 games with me and he was town in both those games but this game he's not awol? Like in what universe is that a good enough reason to evict someone?

my pronoun is they/them
VOTE: pooky

ngl if this was an e-1 vote (and only e-1 cuz dkoba unovted) i think it's anti-partnery

pedit yeah i did

[skitter30]

/shrug, yesterday you said you don't think bugs "bussing" pooky like that is conclusive to mark off raven/pooky

i don't think i said that
or at the very least, if i did,i had not memeory of that interaction while i said it

(it's like a 160+ page game .... i don't remember every interaction offhand and i'm working on reviewing the parts of the game that will give me what i need to come to a decision)

[skitter30]

I feel like you just defeated your own argument by only listing scumgames

? you're a lot less likely to place votes in scumgames in my experience
not sure what you're trying to say