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[NoPowerOverMe]

You can bus me if you want but I don't think it's necessary. Call a guilty on Icon and call it a night.

[VP Baltar]

I don't think we will need to bus tomorrow. I'll go 1v1 with someone

[VP Baltar]

Or I could claim an inno on aldus

[VP Baltar]

Oh shit, we did it boys!!!!

[VP Baltar]

I've never landed a flawless scum victory, and I've never wanted something so bad

[Alduskkel]

dodged a bullet, that was a real nailbiter

and we still have another day to go, but yeah, this should be in the bag now.

my vote on testarossa might have looked bad but it might also have been necessary given how much hesitation datisi was showing

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, from a town perspective, better her than you

[Alduskkel]

honestly thinking maybe VPB should claim a guilty on me or something lol

[Raya36]

It is now night

[VP Baltar]

honestly thinking maybe VPB should claim a guilty on me or something lol

Part of me feels like a result on you is the WIFOM we need to push this over the line. I'm not sure if I can survive tomorrow. It would make sense for both of you to come out after me probably.

We should probably game out both an inno and guilty on Aldus to see what that looks like

[NoPowerOverMe]

Aldus Kills Datisi
NPOM Rolecop Hellbrooks

[Alduskkel]

We should probably game out both an inno and guilty on Aldus to see what that looks like

What do you mean by "game out"?

[VP Baltar]

We should probably game out both an inno and guilty on Aldus to see what that looks like

What do you mean by "game out"?

I think we should think through what kind of support each action would have, and what possible outcomes would be.

For instance, if I claim a guilty on you, one of us is getting flipped for sure. So we'd have to go to a Day 5 before a potential win is possible

[NoPowerOverMe]

Honestly a quick guilty is our best shot. The longer the game goes the longer the town has a chance to figure things out.

[Raya36]

Aldus Kills Datisi
NPOM Rolecop Hellbrooks

Received

[VP Baltar]

OK, so here is how I am thinking about things:

If I claim guilty on Aldus...

PROS:
Good distancing
Chance to clear Aldus to the finish if I get yeeted
Definitely distracts from NPOM
Credible investigation target for VP

CONS:
Almost guarantees a scum yeet tomorrow.
Town could see through WIFOM if they flip VP and then Flip Aldus the next day

If I claim innocent on Aldus...

PROS:
Potential distancing
Chance to direct attention away from Aldus in lylo
Credible investigation target for VP

CONS:
Creates link between Aldus and VP if either one flips, guaranteeing two scum flips.
Andres in particular may be triggered by this outcome and come after us.

If I claim a guilty on a town player...

PROS:
If the right player is selected, could force the final miselimination
Fewer connections between VP and other scum

CONS:
Will need to explain why not investigate Aldus
VP will have to go to war with fake guilty player
If VP gets flipped, that person will be cleared town basically.

[VP Baltar]

What other pros and cons am I missing? If I claim a guilty on a townie, who should it be? My instinct is andres because he will go ballistic. Koba would also likely be very mad.

[VP Baltar]

I'm also going to try to think about which scenarios surviving town players are most likely to support.

I guess I could also claim a guilty on NPOM if needed, if our goal was to put Aldus in future lylo. My gut says NPOM has a better chance to survive, but eliminating Datisi could lessen the overall resistance to yeeting NPOM.

[Alduskkel]

I mean, we have a full day still. We can take more time if needed. Just feels to me like there is a case on testa and a gut on aldus. I'll be dead tomorrow or I'd offer to just cop Aldus and sort it. Wish we had a doc

didn't you basically say that you were going to investigate me? like I have no idea how you'd sell it tomorrow if you were like "actually I investigated someone else"

[Alduskkel]

if you claim a guilty on me then you definitely win that fight
maybe then next day you claim a guilty on koba, koba definitely looks bad for pushing testa

[Alduskkel]

also: since it's lylo for the rest of the game, you can always sell the idea that you're alive because scum want you miselim'd

[VP Baltar]

I mean, we have a full day still. We can take more time if needed. Just feels to me like there is a case on testa and a gut on aldus. I'll be dead tomorrow or I'd offer to just cop Aldus and sort it. Wish we had a doc

didn't you basically say that you were going to investigate me? like I have no idea how you'd sell it tomorrow if you were like "actually I investigated someone else"

For sure, but I'm sure I could think of something if I needed to. Obviously this town has been willing to buy this bridge I'm selling.

I think I can get away with one day of "the scum kept me alive as a miselim", but a second day would be hard don't you think? Especially if I claimed a guilty on you. They'd have to be super suspicious if I survived after that, right?

[VP Baltar]

also: since it's lylo for the rest of the game, you can always sell the idea that you're alive because scum want you miselim'd

The perpetual LyLo is true though. That might be a sales pitch...

[NoPowerOverMe]

The longer you stay alive the more problematic it becomes. Scum should want town vp dead.

[Alduskkel]

Yeah I dunno how you explain being alive on Day 5, that's like the one flaw in the plan (guilty on me then guilty on koba) imo

it's just every other plan seems worse