Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[the worst]

meanwhile you're literally using bugspray's contributions to sort raven...

[Something_Smart]

notice how we are at dsj flips town - but instead of doing what you promised to do - you have defaulted to "let's just lynch pooky/raven" which means your answer at the time was basically full of shit and you were pushing a dsj lynch on bad faith to begin with

did you miss my sarcasm before?

After dsjstr flipped, we had the mark, which gives credence to exactly one scum in Pooky/tw, with a preference for Pooky, and then you started pushing me/tw which means if you're town we likely can't win anyway and you pushing away from Raven makes more sense as her partner, and then she started pushing me/tw as well, which gives even more credence to that theory. Meanwhile, tw has maintained his confidence in Datisi town, which I trust, and Datisi has eroded his confidence in Raven town, which was the main thing holding me back from scumreading her. All of the pieces for a Pooky/Raven scumteam have come into place-- the townies are mostly in the same headspace, the setup makes sense, and the scum plan to mis-exe me today is clear.

But yeah, it was just a default read and I didn't do any thinking.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I am sick to death of you skating by on whatever town-play koba did and just putting absolutely 0 effort into this.

I'd be ok losing to Datisi-scum cuz at least he put all sorts of emotion into his death-tunnel on me but I can't really accept losing to you because you've put almost 0 effort into this game and are skating by without even voting and its just dumb

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

meanwhile you're literally using bugspray's contributions to sort raven...

no we're using bugspray to show why bugspray/pooky can't be scum together. it's not the same fucking thing as saying ooh this guy played really townie on half of day 1 so whatever he does the rest of the game doesn't matter.

[the worst]

I feel more high off the fumes of this game

morningduck on point

10 mins ago duck on point

[the worst]

both bugs/dkko are nonbinary and both prefer they/them

[Something_Smart]

like your play this game has been so lazy and sloppy that you have managed to melt away any goodwill/town-iness that Koba built up and your default response seems to be "WELL LOOK AT HOW TOWNY KOBA WAS"

GUESS WHAT KOBA ISNT FUCKING PLAYING THIS GAME ANYMORE YOU ARE

I don't understand what this is supposed to prove? Koba and I share the same role PM. Koba's ISO is and always has been towny, and it will always continue to be.

This is just a fancy way for you to say that I've been scummy without any evidence.

[the worst]

tbqh i agree with #4456

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if someone plays really townie for half a day that doesn't mean it lasts for the rest of the game - you have to keep playing townie to look townie

[the worst]

in that case how is SS scummy?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because he has absolute confidence in his solve and he doesn't even care about the possibility he could be wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we definitely need dsjstr's flip to make sense of anything

please elaborate

Dsj flips scum ->??

Dsj flips town ->??

like this was what he said about Dsj - he says he needs the information from DSJ's flip to "make sense of anything" I ask him for specifics and he basically put down some random nonsense that he didn't really think out:

dsj flips scum -> we can probably just kill you/raven and be happy

dsj flips town -> something is rotten in the state of denmark. is it datisi? is it tw? who knows, really, we get to have a real fun and by fun I mean not fun lylo to figure that one out.

Now DSJ has flipped town - does SS do what he promised to do? Nope he just goes straight to scenario 1: Let's kill Pooky/Raven.(which is what he wanted to do if dsj flipped scum)

So how the hell could SS need DSJ's flip info to "figure things out" IF HIS PLAN REGARDLESS OF DSJ FLIP WAS ALWAYS TO LYNCH POOKY/RAVEN?

He didn't NEED INFO AT ALL. HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO SOLVE THE GAME.

Does that sound like a player "figuring things out" or a scum checking easy low hanging fruit off his "to lynch list" for an easy win? LIKE I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS SS-SCUM HAS TO GET FOR YOU GUYS TO WAKE THE !@#$ UP

[Something_Smart]

if someone plays really townie for half a day that doesn't mean it lasts for the rest of the game - you have to keep playing townie to look townie

no???

the definition of towny is above average likelihood to be town. if someone plays above average likelihood to be town for a bit, and then plays average likelihood to be town... they are still above average likelihood to be town, albeit less so.

If someone plays EXTREMELY above average likelihood to be town, even for a very short duration, they will still be extremely above average likelihood to be town for the whole game, unless they do something extremely below average likelihood to be town. I can demonstrate the math here, if you actually care.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like a lot of times scum will put down some bullshit like "we need this ___ lynch for information" or "we need this ___ flip to figure things out" but when you press them for exactly information what the flip/lynch would create in either scenario - they don't have anything because what they were really doing is just pushing a mislynch and they didn't think that far ahead to have actual plan depending on the flip info so they just make up some bullshit. Then when the actual information comes in they play completely differently because they

never

believed that bullshit reasoning they put down in the first place.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if someone plays really townie for half a day that doesn't mean it lasts for the rest of the game - you have to keep playing townie to look townie

no???

the definition of towny is above average likelihood to be town. if someone plays above average likelihood to be town for a bit, and then plays average likelihood to be town... they are still above average likelihood to be town, albeit less so.

If someone plays EXTREMELY above average likelihood to be town, even for a very short duration, they will still be extremely above average likelihood to be town for the whole game, unless they do something extremely below average likelihood to be town. I can demonstrate the math here, if you actually care.

so you're saying if someone does something super townie early in the game, and then later they do scummy things, those scummy things won't affect the probability of them being town?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no never mind i misread that

my point is that your scummy behavior has washed away by far any positive things koba has done in his 3 days here- you've been playing for 20 days - koba only played for 3 days

[Something_Smart]

What have I done that's been scummy, and (this is important) why is it more likely to come from scum than town?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u just pretending to be unable to read my posts?

[Something_Smart]

I don't recall you ever answering the second question.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we definitely need dsjstr's flip to make sense of anything

please elaborate

Dsj flips scum ->??

Dsj flips town ->??

like this was what he said about Dsj - he says he needs the information from DSJ's flip to "make sense of anything" I ask him for specifics and he basically put down some random nonsense that he didn't really think out:

dsj flips scum -> we can probably just kill you/raven and be happy

dsj flips town -> something is rotten in the state of denmark. is it datisi? is it tw? who knows, really, we get to have a real fun and by fun I mean not fun lylo to figure that one out.

Now DSJ has flipped town - does SS do what he promised to do? Nope he just goes straight to scenario 1: Let's kill Pooky/Raven.(which is what he wanted to do if dsj flipped scum)

So how the hell could SS need DSJ's flip info to "figure things out" IF HIS PLAN REGARDLESS OF DSJ FLIP WAS ALWAYS TO LYNCH POOKY/RAVEN?

He didn't NEED INFO AT ALL. HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO SOLVE THE GAME.

Does that sound like a player "figuring things out" or a scum checking easy low hanging fruit off his "to lynch list" for an easy win? LIKE I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS SS-SCUM HAS TO GET FOR YOU GUYS TO WAKE THE !@#$ UP

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like a lot of times scum will put down some bullshit like "we need this ___ lynch for information" or "we need this ___ flip to figure things out" but when you press them for exactly information what the flip/lynch would create in either scenario - they don't have anything because what they were really doing is just pushing a mislynch and they didn't think that far ahead to have actual plan depending on the flip info so they just make up some bullshit. Then when the actual information comes in they play completely differently because they

never

believed that bullshit reasoning they put down in the first place.

[Something_Smart]

That's actually not true, you did have 4463. But I explained pretty clearly what my thought process was that led to what I'm pushing today, so I don't think it really applies here?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because he has absolute confidence in his solve and he doesn't even care about the possibility he could be wrong

[Something_Smart]

After dsjstr flipped, we had the mark, which gives credence to exactly one scum in Pooky/tw, with a preference for Pooky, and then you started pushing me/tw which means if you're town we likely can't win anyway and you pushing away from Raven makes more sense as her partner, and then she started pushing me/tw as well, which gives even more credence to that theory. Meanwhile, tw has maintained his confidence in Datisi town, which I trust, and Datisi has eroded his confidence in Raven town, which was the main thing holding me back from scumreading her. All of the pieces for a Pooky/Raven scumteam have come into place-- the townies are mostly in the same headspace, the setup makes sense, and the scum plan to mis-exe me today is clear.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how did you use the information from DSJ flipping town?