Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[Dannflor]

VOTECOUNT 1.4

Gasoline

[2] Dunnstral :

Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion

[2] tea leaves :

Isis, Ydrasse

[1] Ydrasse :

Pine

[1] GuiltyLion :

Farren

[1] Farren :

tea leaves

[2] Not Voting :

Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to exile.

The Day 1 deadline is in: (expired on 2020-08-27 01:04:14)

[Farren]

It beats the alternative.

PEdit: Right now, I think there's one in GuiltyLion / Gamma. I don't think they both are.

If it's GuiltyLion, I think we can take Dunnstral off the chopping block entirely.

[Isis]

why is gamma scummy

[Farren]

Started out with one memorable moment and then faded from there. Not voting; didn't care for his explanation. Too opaque.

Argument against: I seem to be the only one who feels that way. There have been times where I've been right and everyone else was wrong, but that's usually more of a late-game thing.

[Ydrasse]

farren, why do you think it couldn't be both?

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(i am x's.)

[Isis]

I was right and everyone else was wrong in the last normal I played


they were all BADDIES

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[Farren]

111 didn't feel like s/s interaction.

PEdit: @Ydrasse

[Isis]

dece dece

[Ydrasse]

@farren: :> i was just reading over that and noticed that gl didn't actually reply to that as far as i can see?

i think that gamma being resistant of accepting the townread/actively pushing against gl is townier than gl offering the tr and rolling with it/affirming it.

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[Isis]

happy birthday too dann
happy birthday too dann
happy birthday to dannflor
happy birthday
to
dann

[Isis]

I think a meaningful factor on whether to vote Dunnstral or tea leaves is whether Dunnstral is going to spew at all this game
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[Ydrasse]

i'm prone to thinking they're not partnered though unless it's like, some big-brained thing where gamma eventually gives in to the wily gl winning him over to make it seem natural i... guess?

happy b-day, dann!

p-edit: i just want dunn to post something at all tbh... same with pine.

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[Isis]

Dann has both scumgames and towngames that he never really gets into. Pine usually either reps out or starts playing the game by day 2.

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[Ydrasse]

alright, good to know. i hope that regardless they both appear at some point during this day and give us something...

also why are you cheating at our game.

[Dannflor]

Searching for a replacement for Pine.

[Isis]

I forgot the boardstate

you can still win

[Ydrasse]

it is a hollow victory

when i arise anew come the morning we shall do battle on the board again.

[Isis]

Ydrasse is trying to pocket me

[Ydrasse]

it isn't trying if i'm successful

ok good night

[Isis]

aflkd;kjawepqrggggggggnihuifrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp

[Dannflor]

Bell replaces Pine.

[Bell]

Hiya!
Catching up.

[Bell]

Based off my first 3 pages I feel like pine's current vote was cool and good and do not know why there are not more votes on Ydrasse.
Farren second. Kind of complex headspace there.

Clidd townie. Clidd town. -> Cliid obvtown.
Mena??? Eh. Cool he threw down the policy lurker card, a mena favorite. And Mena Convo with Clidd veered into his principled territory. Probs town. Cool. Two town reads so far.

Mena & Clidd slots can town block with me when they feel like I've earned their recognition.

Morning Tweet: Ydrasse question seems a little bit creative.

Dunstral: Scummeh.
GulityLion. Not familiar with Clidd's sudden read flips or hard town reads based on empathy. Or just trying to break that up. Honest rxn to Farren.
Gamma. Not much to bite into.

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[GuiltyLion]

@farren: :> i was just reading over that and noticed that gl didn't actually reply to that as far as i can see?

i think that gamma being resistant of accepting the townread/actively pushing against gl is townier than gl offering the tr and rolling with it/affirming it.

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I did answer it in 104, Gamma acknowledged this in his next post

here's a question for both you and Farren regarding my Gamma TR - why would scum!me give a freebie townread on Gamma specifically? What do you think is my angle here? When I rolled scum in the first roll of this setup, I specifically named him in the mafia PT (dunno if Farren/MT saw those posts tho) as someone I thought we may be able to plausibly push/eliminate. He's not someone who is generally universally townread or a town leader, I've historically mistakenly scumread him in several prior games, and this game so far isn't really an exception to his normal style IMO.

however, he has done something I actually see as quite town-indicative this game - he claimed an early strong townread on a questionable slot while it was under scrutiny from a well-known aggressive/influential player in Menalque. I hardly see this come from scum - if town!Ydrasse, he's cutting off avenues to vote her later for no real gain in terms of towncred, and risks town spewing her on his flip. I also doubt he'd do it if they were partnered, the vast majority of scum players are too scared to defend their buddy from early game suspicion in that manner.

The only agenda I could

maybe

see as scum-serving is if he's partnered with exactly Menalque and they were using Ydrasse as a wedge topic to casually distance from each other without actually pushing each other directly, but that like actively requires me to don the tinfoil.

There's also the execution of the post/read, he didn't bother to give a real explanation nor did he try to double down on it when he received blowback, it strikes me as a fundamentally genuine thought with no agenda or scum motivation. That's solid grounds for a D1 townread, and I haven't seen him

do

anything to make me want to go back and re-evaluate, as I said yesterday.

so winding back - if I'm scum and Gamma's town, why would I go through the effort of fake TRing him, especially since you don't see this as S-S? Would Gamma really be a necessary pocket for me here? If I were scum I don't think I'd even need to bring a read on him to the table at that point, it was literally the first read I gave and I could have likely dressed up a read on almost anybody else if I wanted to.

I can understand

not agreeing

with my read here, but I can't grok how you see scum!agenda in it, Gamma's not under threat of elimination and he'd be very low on the list of slots I feel I need to buddy or to play around if I were scum.

[Bell]

Isis, why is your vote wrong.