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[bob3141]

correct a few mistakes

[Billy Pilgrim]

See i kinda figured that with 3 masons and power in the masonry we were probably up against strong scum power. Just the fakeclaim from Baltar not responding to Datisi's fakeclaim made it more believable.

[bob3141]

lol I cant beleive this town is dumb enough to have lynched testa. I came into the game and in one hour i could see testa was 100% town.

[bob3141]

Ive read some of the end day reasoning for test beign scum and they were absurdly half baked.

Town shoudl of listened to me. Afterall my poe day 2 have 90% solve rate

[Menalque]

Ive read some of the end day reasoning for test beign scum and they were absurdly half baked.

Town shoudl of listened to me. Afterall my poe day 2 have 90% solve rate

With respect bob, that means you need to work on being more persuasive. I don’t think it’s helpful to say “town should have listened to me”, I think the more constructive question is “why didn’t town listen to me, and how do I get them to do so next time?”

[bob3141]

Its not possible to convince scum

[Testarossa]

Thank god I am dead, at least I don't have to sort this mess in elo.

[Testarossa]

Gee, that whole thing with my Billy read progression is so incredibly unlucky in context of the possible scum nightaction. It really just was an innocent and genuine read, way to go evolve into something really incriminating.

[bob3141]

You were not actualy bad. Ifscum knew who a mason they would not change their read. They would just bumb them off in the night.

Just we have scum that can tell a yarn.

[Testarossa]

I would be super mad if Baltar is scum, because then I will feel only regret that I listened to others and didn't went full tunnel on his claim. That freaking wrong result gave me sleepless nights , even because he avoided responding to it. Ugh.

Could make sense though. When going through the poe of Aldus, Andres, Koba, NPOM I always felt that two of these work well, but with the third it becomes more difficult through the interactions between those four. Oh well, we will know by tomorrow.

[Testarossa]

You were not actualy bad. Ifscum knew who a mason they would not change their read. They would just bumb them off in the night.

Just we have scum that can tell a yarn.

Yep, thought so too. Going sneakily from scum to null to town is so cartoonish, normally everyone would notice.

[bob3141]

I would be super mad if Baltar is scum, because then I will feel only regret that I listened to others and didn't went full tunnel on his claim. That freaking wrong result gave me sleepless nights , even because he avoided responding to it. Ugh.

Could make sense though. When going through the poe of Aldus, Andres, Koba, NPOM I always felt that two of these work well, but with the third it becomes more difficult through the interactions between those four. Oh well, we will know by tomorrow.

Baltar is near certain to be scum. You would need a very power heavy scum team for it not not be unbalanced. Baltar not getting lynched reminds me of a situation in prior game. The guy was obvously scum but had a false clear on him. He made a bold move of claiming to be neighbourized during the same night a town disloyal rolestopper had visited him.

[Menalque]

If it makes you feel better testa, I think most of us here were TRing you (or like, you were in my PoE but I wanted literally everyone else dead before you so I was de facto townreading you even though I wasn’t totally sure)

[Testarossa]

Well, hey Datisi. Welcome to salvation.

[Datisi]

when you don't have enough willpower to convince your own fucking mason partner to vote with you, you know the game is lost.

[Datisi]

if we did track the deepwolf on night one i'm gonna cry. if we tracked the PT cop on night one i'm gonna cry. this game is a trainwreck. like all my recent games have been. maybe i *should* go on hiatus or something...

[Datisi]

I would probably NK datisi here tbh

Good thread presence and control, basically a calming presence and if dk + icon are town that’s way more likely to spiral out of control if she’s not around to moderate it

Oh, plus I guess I see NKs from the perspective of “if I were scum” and datisi is easily the person I’d be most worried about in this PL. icon would be more annoying to deal with, I think, but I think I’m more able to fool him than I am dats

this is like... one nice thing to read here

Hunhhh maybe datisi is scum? I kinda don’t know that I like her describing her push on janko as a shitpush? I’d need to check that

Like I still don’t think of my pushes as ever being shitpushing when I’m town because to me that’s inherently the idea that I’m pushing something I know is bad. It’s like a distinctly different thing in my mind to a push I’m making when I’m scum

i called it a shitpush because that's what it was. did i believe in it? yeah. was i sure janko was scum? yeah. but like just look at it and what it's lead to. it was a shitpush.

(yes i know that is like Not the usual definition of "shitpush" but idk ony day two it felt like a huge shitpush :/)

[Datisi]

i felt bob was town but did nothing about it. i felt testa was town but did nothing about it. even when i was (defacto) conftown. s i g h . . .

[Datisi]

i have like... one "good" towngame and one "good" scumgame a year and i blew it on Why Gun and Brass&Shrapnel and now it's just gonna be this.

[Datisi]

okay, i'll stop. i'm fine.

[Datisi]

3 masons + 1 is tracker

vs

scum informed there are masons

which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum

i actually did think about this
like specifically "scum informed about the masonry" did cross my mind
but then i thoguht "does billy still die there?" because idk as scum i'd always kill a tracker first over a potentially "just a mason" (but if i did screw it up that bad possible they saw through my shit which is just an additional checkmark on the trainwreck list)
then i thought of "scum informed billy is mason tracker" but that just seems like lowkey asshole design

[Datisi]

the fact that iconeum is Online and Posting is making me very very uneasy about his alignment

sigh, come on, let me lose two town games in the span of a few hours. that's gotta be a record.

[Billy Pilgrim]

3 masons + 1 is tracker

vs

scum informed there are masons

which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum

i actually did think about this
like specifically "scum informed about the masonry" did cross my mind
but then i thoguht "does billy still die there?" because idk as scum i'd always kill a tracker first over a potentially "just a mason" (but if i did screw it up that bad possible they saw through my shit which is just an additional checkmark on the trainwreck list)
then i thought of "scum informed billy is mason tracker" but that just seems like lowkey asshole design

Also, why don't I die N1 there?

[Datisi]

mafia only gets informed at the end of the night??? i don't know. this game is a mess.

[Billy Pilgrim]

so its between Koba and Baltar for today. Hell it Baltar fakeclaimed there that well im fine losing to him. Also, I've kinda felt like Koba was scum for a while. Maybe bussing NPOM when it was low risk.