Can you find a game where you did it as town?In post 4649, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:can you find a game where I do this as scum? what the hell does this puppy dude have to do with me?
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the negation of I wouldn't do this as scum is to find a game where I did it as scum.In post 4650, Something_Smart wrote:
Can you find a game where you did it as town?In post 4649, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:can you find a game where I do this as scum? what the hell does this puppy dude have to do with me?
Whether I have done this as town before has no bearing on this and you know it.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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puppy was scum in 2135 that i called out on that same exact bullshit (and then everyone ignored me and town lost and i'm salty but anyway) my point is that you're saying "oh it's so sucidial to do that as scum i would never do it" when it's blatantly falseI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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show me a game where I did it as scum thenShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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you not doing it as scum (which, is anyone gonna go through all your past games?) doesn't definitely mean you wouldn't soIn post 4651, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the negation of I wouldn't do this as scum is to find a game where I did it as scum.
Whether I have done this as town before has no bearing on this and you know it.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Something_Smart
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no, that is the negation of "you DIDN'T do it as scum." It is impossible to prove that you WOULDN'T do it.In post 4651, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the negation of I wouldn't do this as scum is to find a game where I did it as scum.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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i'm just saying that this is false, it's a scum strategy that can work (and has worked before), and saying "i wouldn't offer myself as the lynch as scum" is a very weak argumentIn post 4645, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:It is suicidally stupid to make these posts if I am scumI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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no I'm saying its not in my scum-meta because you can see in all my past games i've never done itShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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and i'm rereading this puppy thing and it's totally not the same fucking thing at allShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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In post 1541, CantHateAPuppy wrote:if u think i'm scum with knight, then why lynch prana today? 1 before lylo is supposed to be about resolving ambiguities. i would rather the rest of the town pick between me/una than go into tomorrow on a 50-50Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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he wanted a 1v1 between him and una not a fucking self-lynch to resolve his slot prior to lylo because he townread PranaShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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he was "pushing" una (read: setting up for his lynch) while defending the designated mislynch of the day (prana), which was accompanied by "oh just lynch me if you'll be like that, i don't wanna lose tomorrow by tanner voting for me, but just make sure to get una tomorrow"
and i'm saying you did the same thing, except add in s_s, dsjstr, datisi for una, prana, tanner respectively
of course i'm not going to convince you of that since you're gonna keep saying how you were "genuinely trying to get yourself lynched" butI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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those posts also come when Prana is at L-1 and Puppy has 0 votes on him so he's just white-knighting before the lynch to make himself look better - like there's almost no chance they take him up on that offer and the offer isn't really even a self-lynch its moving a 1v1 between him and una up.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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like just look at the VC when he made those posts
Prana has 3 votes on him and Puppy has 0 - you really think he's at a point where town is willing to switch off Prana and lynch him?Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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the VC when I offered to get lynched was:
PookeyTheMagicalBear (1) - Datisi
dsjstr (1) - Raven Branwen
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the likelihood of the town taking the suggestion and executing the proposed self-lynch is kind of important to factor into "whether scum would gambit here for town-cred"Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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This is not saying - lynch me get Una tommorrow. This is saying lets do a 1v1 between me and una today - which doesnt happen cuz 3 votes are already on prana and the town isn't gonnna move off.In post 1541, CantHateAPuppy wrote:if u think i'm scum with knight, then why lynch prana today? 1 before lylo is supposed to be about resolving ambiguities. i would rather the rest of the town pick between me/una than go into tomorrow on a 50-50Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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and this is kind of retarded for me to even be defending some other player's meta you really good at this sliding scale bullshit datisiShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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past actions have a indication on future actions. That's a reason why judges when sentencing criminals usually look at past record etc to determine whether they will do further crimes in the future.In post 4655, Something_Smart wrote:
no, that is the negation of "you DIDN'T do it as scum." It is impossible to prove that you WOULDN'T do it.In post 4651, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the negation of I wouldn't do this as scum is to find a game where I did it as scum.
My point is that my game meta history is the best clue you are going to get about whether I am capable of these actions you are accusing me of doing badly. You have tried to twist that by going for the inverse of the action which has no bearing on the probability of me doing this as scum.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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well, this was the votecount, i wasn't gonna move my vote anyway, and this was the nextIn post 3575, Micc wrote:
the only person to move was dsjstr, and like anyone was gonna listen to him at that point. the next VC was the day two's final VC. i'd argue it was fairly unlikely people were gonna take you up on your offer.In post 3670, Micc wrote:
also i'd argue the effort you put into "saving" dsjstr is irrelevant because effort =/= alignment
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The best single clue maybe, but not the only one, and I would assume that your meta would reveal that you are capable of a playing in a variety of ways and using WIFOM to your advantage. Especially if you have never done what you did here as either alignment, then the proper conclusion to draw is that a situation where something like this would be appropriate is simply rare, and you were never in such a situation before. In that case, the fact that you have never done it as scum is of no consequence.In post 4668, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:My point is that my game meta history is the best clue you are going to get about whether I am capable of these actions you are accusing me of doing badly.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Oh also, this is silly. The probability of you doing it as town + the probability of you doing it as scum = the total probability of you doing it. In this game that latter quantity is constant. So the greater the probability of you doing it as town, the lower the probability of you doing it as scum, and vice versa.In post 4668, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:You have tried to twist that by going for the inverse of the action which has no bearing on the probability of me doing this as scum.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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(1) in that gamestate puppy would always lose that 1v1 so it's basically the same thing and (2) what's the meaningful difference if your point is that "there was 3 votes on prana already, town wasn't gonna move"In post 4666, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
This is not saying - lynch me get Una tommorrow. This is saying lets do a 1v1 between me and una today - which doesnt happen cuz 3 votes are already on prana and the town isn't gonnna move off.In post 1541, CantHateAPuppy wrote:if u think i'm scum with knight, then why lynch prana today? 1 before lylo is supposed to be about resolving ambiguities. i would rather the rest of the town pick between me/una than go into tomorrow on a 50-50
is it because "well if puppy had offered to plainly lynch himself the town would've taken him up on the offer"?
actually what's the point of arguing this idk i'm here anywayI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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In post 3435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think theres a decent chance you are deathtunneled town in this game so if we make it to lylo together the scum will win. its better for me to exit today and get rid of this distraction. good luck dats
This post is where I first offered to exit the game on D2 - aka get lynched.
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assuming that dsj moves over from voting Datisi to me, that's 2 votes on me, with only 1 person voting dsjShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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In post 4672, Datisi wrote:(1) in that gamestate puppy would always lose that 1v1 so it's basically the same thing and (2) what's the meaningful difference if your point is that "there was 3 votes on prana already, town wasn't gonna move"
is it because "well if puppy had offered to plainly lynch himself the town would've taken him up on the offer"?
actually what's the point of arguing this idk i'm here anyway
No I'm saying that the gambit makes sense coming from scum when there are three votes on Prana because its unlikely those 3 votes just decide to move from Prana to Puppy there and Puppy had 0 votes on him to begin with.
The gambit is suicidally stupid if done by me at that point because I was at 1-1 with dsj and dsj hadn't voted me yet.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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