Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Datisi]

/shrug, you're going purely votecounts. (1) dsjstr was already being suspected at the time, (2) scum!pooky's partner could help out in making sure dsjstr goes through, (3) saying "oh it's better for me to get lynched today" is not even close to a serious push for your own lynch and demanding it happens and (4) people are very unlikely to take calls for a self-lymch seriously anyway (putsideof purely mechanical reasons which wasn't the case here)

[skitter30]

sorry i got distracted
i still haven't really read the last whatever pages, i shall valiantly try again

i'm leaning towards voting pooky here tho
idk who the partner is

[Datisi]

i still haven't really read the last whatever pages, i shall valiantly try again

pages 176-mid183? i think things were Not Shitfest there and i'd appreciate your Thoughts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sorry i got distracted
i still haven't really read the last whatever pages, i shall valiantly try again

i'm leaning towards voting pooky here tho
idk who the partner is

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12073338

you can start from there if you want to skip most of the bullshit back and forth between me/ss/dats

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

idk who the partner is

again if nobody makes sense as my partner - it's because I don't have a partner

[skitter30]

despite it making 0 sense he was my buddy

can you summarize why pooky/you doesn't make sense? is it just that bugs lolvoted pooky for that e-1 vote way back when?

[skitter30]

I would hammer my buddy on D1 if we thought it was our best shot.

tbf, that's not the sort of gamestate where the e-1 took place in

[skitter30]

so are you going to admit you're in a 0 effort death tunnel and it looks shady af?

bad faith

[skitter30]

I don't understand what this is supposed to prove? Koba and I share the same role PM. Koba's ISO is and always has been towny, and it will always continue to be.

in my valiant effort to reread salient parts of the game, i am getting kinda close to wanting to townbing dkoba

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Datisi

like i really feel I don't deserve you this game, you've been so good to me and i've been so shit and useless and it just breaks my heart seeing that asshole dats do the same shit routine to you too

YOU NEED To STOP THIS NOW! Not cool bruh!

Does this look like an S/S interaction to you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Datisi does this look like scum-theater to you?

like i really feel I don't deserve you this game, you've been so good to me and i've been so shit and useless and it just breaks my heart seeing that asshole dats do the same shit routine to you too

YOU NEED To STOP THIS NOW! Not cool bruh!

You are gaslighting Dats and in a mean way. I refuse to be any kind of party to this. Dats is a great person, so is SS and I’m actually friends with tw, so don’t you dare talk about my friends that way. I won’t stand for it!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I legit don't get how you came out of our cry session in the morning convinced that pooky/raven are definitely scum together.

i legit don't see how town-datisi makes that conclusion

[skitter30]

Now DSJ has flipped town - does SS do what he promised to do? Nope he just goes straight to scenario 1: Let's kill Pooky/Raven.(which is what he wanted to do if dsj flipped scum)

you're ignoring the changed circumstances (i.e. mark (which makes me conftown, makes tw mechanically likely town)), and how that affected ss's train of thought/pov. yes, he happened to arrive at the same conclusion, but he did the work to get there and explained why he thinks that

you're just kinda skipping over the 'did the work to explain why he came to the conclusion' bit

like the fact that he's taking tw out fo the pool for mechanical reasons explains a lot about his current conclusions

although, ss, can you just remind me why you're townbinning dats again?

[Datisi]

i hate that that happened and it shouldn't hace happened but i'm not going to be awarding townreads (or scumreads!) because of it. it spiraled out of control fast but it was essentially things that weren't even game related.

[skitter30]

I literally told the town they should lynch me and here's three possible ways night could play out and who would be the scum in each scenario

can u just requote this bit plz?

[skitter30]

I liked koba too initially but I was convinced that Ank was locktown in a game where she flipped scum

i don't know why this is, like, relevant to anything

[skitter30]

SS claim: Raven is pretty decent as scum.

Also SS claim: Scum!Raven is clearly a moron who is trying to set herself up to gamethrow. Which one is it SS? Am I decent at scum or am I a suicidal gamethrowing moron?

You can’t have it both ways.

not sure where either of these things are happening

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT

im actually pretty worried dsj is town here

Then who is scum, then?

lets say i am lynched today.

assuming tw dies in the night and flips bg and someone else confirms skitter as FM tommorrow, then I think the scum would be SS/Raven in the endgame.

if tw doesnt die and skitter dies- I think there is a strong chance tw/SS are the scum.

if datisi dies and tw lives - I also think it would be tw/SS as scum but this is the hardest scenario imo.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i hate that that happened and it shouldn't hace happened but i'm not going to be awarding townreads (or scumreads!) because of it. it spiraled out of control fast but it was essentially things that weren't even game related.

im not asking for townreads or scumreads. im asking you does that look likr scum theater or not?

[skitter30]

right, sorry, that got requoted a few posts later, i should have just kept reading

[the worst]

mooorning

[the worst]

I'm not in a mood to read 9 pages if it's just circular again
did I miss anything?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not sure where either of these things are happening

she is continuing to respond to SS's "solve"

You both are speaking essentially in unison today.

You are pulling whatever you can out of my ISO and assigning it scum motivation without actually analyzing it, and you're shooting down whatever I say and trying to gaslight me by suggesting that my arguments are insane. You're ignoring the evidence I have given of decision making and insisting that you actually know what I did or didn't think about. You both have expressed a token suspicion on the other but ultimately decided that I was the right one to kill.

This is not at all a cooperative mindset. This is adversarial. This method of twisting the facts could be confirmation bias-- but confirmation bias rarely manifests itself in such a sudden (neither of you were remotely tunneled on me before today) or coordinated (you both are doing this in exactly the same way at exactly the same time) manner.

Meanwhile I have basically sat here and taken it, trying to deflect and break down your arguments while engaging the people I trust and trying to get on the same page as them (and get them on the same page as each other). I haven't really presented any arguments of my own, because I don't necessarily think that what I can produce is more meaningful than what they can produce, and whatever case they make will certainly be more meaningful to them.

The bolded is why your solve is bullshit. In a world where you’re actually town here (doubt it), you figure that out. You are the one gaslighting here. You’re not right and you clearly dgaf and if you’re actually town, I’d really like to know why.

She says that his solve is the equivalent of calling her a terrible scum player

[skitter30]

It really sucks we might possibly lose this game either because of scum pushing a bad faith agenda or town not seeing how for like a gazillion reasons this makes absolutely no sense. @Sorry Aldus, Lillith, dsjstr I tried but this is literally like MBoS again.

if we're talking about the first one i literally won that game in lylo for you, remember?
(oh hey, another time where i was lol-conf-towned by scum in lylo)

actually why is this game even on your mind right now?

and what is your solve even? like i'm just seeing a lot of 'not pooky/raven! nobody's listening to my solve!' but i don't know what the solve, like, is

pedit no and i'm giving up reading this in a page or two

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not in a mood to read 9 pages if it's just circular again
did I miss anything?

out of tw/ss/dats

2 of you are scum

at this point I think SS is lock-scum but I'm not sure who the town player between Datisi/TW is

so if you're town you should re-read and try to come to your senses.

If you're scum then uh good job you're probly gonna win.