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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:49 pm

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In post 1098, Andresvmb wrote:I think shellyc is the only player to be almost firm Town the way everybody is speaking about the slot.
I'm now going to think about this. The way I am townread, I am quite concerned. I am concerned that as a newbie playing town for the first time, I am being pocketed. I am often pocketed and I hope to rectify the pocketers (if any).

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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:50 pm

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In post 1090, notscience wrote:But bulge just feels different. Even though I was scum there I would have genuinely townread him but I don’t feel that way here.
Hmmm so the Bulge read is based off gut feeling? Might read the game thread so I can do a bit of meta research myself.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:47 am

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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:04 am

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In post 1100, shellyc wrote:
In post 1098, Andresvmb wrote:I think shellyc is the only player to be almost firm Town the way everybody is speaking about the slot.
I'm now going to think about this. The way I am townread, I am quite concerned. I am concerned that as a newbie playing town for the first time, I am being pocketed. I am often pocketed and I hope to rectify the pocketers (if any).

Everyone explain your townread on me please (if you have one)...
Even though he's VL/A ...
I remember lookibg through your posts and they seemed genuine enough to be townie; your genuineness in trying to solve and being genuinely unsure about whose maf stood out. But I'm not very confident yet, like I am moreso with Andre and Bell being town.

Bella's post struck me as very townie, but I would be more inclined to belive it if she had posted it before she was 1 vote away till hammer, though she was V/LA for a bit there, so maybe she genuinely only had time to make that post recently. I'd like them to post more and/or claim.

Part of the reason I think Bell and Andres are townie were andres immediately rebuked me when I made the newbie mistake of speculating on the PR's when no one else did, and Bell put pressure on me right away. Since I am so new to this game, and a replacement, I was looking for initial pocketing, as I'd imagine if I were scum pocketing a low-info newbie would be especially effective here; to me andres and Bell did the opposite. Combine that with Bell seeming like they are genuinely trying to solve in my eyes, and Andres seemingly not caring about looking like scum in my eyes too make them my main townreads.

Still leaning towards notscience being scum but their last defense struck me as a genuine townie reaction (like Bell said, that was the only townie post I felt he had made this game) ; though it could have been a smart adaption as scum. I'll be keeping an eye on what they do.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:39 am

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sorry forgot to check in yesterday, I should have time for this tonight
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 1103, PlusJOYED wrote:Even though he's VL/A ...
I remember lookibg through your posts and they seemed genuine enough to be townie; your genuineness in trying to solve and being genuinely unsure about whose maf stood out. But I'm not very confident yet, like I am moreso with Andre and Bell being town.

Bella's post struck me as very townie, but I would be more inclined to belive it if she had posted it before she was 1 vote away till hammer, though she was V/LA for a bit there, so maybe she genuinely only had time to make that post recently. I'd like them to post more and/or claim.

Part of the reason I think Bell and Andres are townie were andres immediately rebuked me when I made the newbie mistake of speculating on the PR's when no one else did, and Bell put pressure on me right away. Since I am so new to this game, and a replacement, I was looking for initial pocketing, as I'd imagine if I were scum pocketing a low-info newbie would be especially effective here; to me andres and Bell did the opposite. Combine that with Bell seeming like they are genuinely trying to solve in my eyes, and Andres seemingly not caring about looking like scum in my eyes too make them my main townreads.

Still leaning towards notscience being scum but their last defense struck me as a genuine townie reaction (like Bell said, that was the only townie post I felt he had made this game) ; though it could have been a smart adaption as scum. I'll be keeping an eye on what they do.
This is a really townie post to me - I can see your effort in reading people and trying to solve the game. PlusJoy, may I ask you who your secondary scumread is (who notscience's partner might be)
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:43 am

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PlusJoy, if you believe bella's post as a townie post, why is your vote still parked on them?

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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:40 am

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In post 1086, Bell wrote:^ That's the first townie post NS has made all game.
Why do you think this is? Didn't you think NS was a townie Bell? This seems slightly contradictory.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:57 am

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This is a really townie post to me - I can see your effort in reading people and trying to solve the game. PlusJoy, may I ask you who your secondary scumread is (who notscience's partner might be?
No idea. I still really think either NS or bella is scum, but I don't know about them as partners. I'm going to wait on partner analysis until we flip a scum, as I said before.
In post 1106, shellyc wrote:PlusJoy, if you believe bella's post as a townie post, why is your vote still parked on them?

By the way I will not be very active for these few days, but I'll post as much as I can.
Again, fairly positive that one of them is scum. Since I know I'm town, with 4 other townies, and fairly certain andres and Bell are town, and 2 scum that's a decent chance of hitting a scum anyway. I just don't really see a scenario where both NS and Bella are town, at least not until we get more info, so I'm honestly nearly willing to go ahead and lynch Bella, so then we can get NS if Bella flips VT. And I want to force a claim from Bella at this point. I'll take it off if they claim a PR.

Would also like to hear more from bulge, since I'm pretty null on them at this point.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:15 am

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In post 1107, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1086, Bell wrote:^ That's the first townie post NS has made all game.
Why do you think this is? Didn't you think NS was a townie Bell? This seems slightly contradictory.
Ugh, maybe I'm being paranoid, but the more I think about this it seems like a subtle pocketing attempt on me from Bell. If they knew that I already thought they were townie, why pocket there? In fact, if I were bell and scum I would have probably started a wagon against me since my first post was scummy, and see for initial reactions from the town, which Bell did. But, re-reading the posts, wagoning me hard would have probably been the smart thing to do as scum since the initial consensus was that I was scum, and that forces the game to lynch or lose, but Bell backed off instead and may have been just trying to force a reaction out of me to scumhunt.

Probably still town.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:30 am

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@shellyc, i’m Not really reading you as town or scum based on your posts alone.
Your posting style is novel to me. You agree a lot with other players which i’m Not used to seeing.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 1100, shellyc wrote:
In post 1098, Andresvmb wrote:I think shellyc is the only player to be almost firm Town the way everybody is speaking about the slot.
I'm now going to think about this. The way I am townread, I am quite concerned. I am concerned that as a newbie playing town for the first time, I am being pocketed. I am often pocketed and I hope to rectify the pocketers (if any).

Everyone explain your townread on me please (if you have one)...
To clarify, you’re saying this is the first time you’ve rolled town on this website?
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:40 pm

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In post 1111, Bell wrote:To clarify, you’re saying this is the first time you’ve rolled town on this website?
Yes. this is this first time I've rolled town.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:58 pm

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@joyed, i’m Basically just trusting IV on this one. He literally said if I die and get eliminated still TR NS.
Unless NS and bulge are scum partners that’s another TR from either scum trying to sort themselves out ofNS’s scum pool or an honest read from bulge which once again i’d Have to trust. Though, not a fan of meta trust reads after flipping IV.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:09 pm

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In post 1113, Bell wrote:@joyed, i’m Basically just trusting IV on this one. He literally said if I die and get eliminated still TR NS.
Unless NS and bulge are scum partners that’s another TR from either scum trying to sort themselves out ofNS’s scum pool or an honest read from bulge which once again i’d Have to trust. Though, not a fan of meta trust reads after flipping IV.
This post is very confusing. Are you telling us not to use meta? Are you townreading NS?
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:13 pm

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I use meta, I'm not sure how useful it is or what you need to look for in old games to make decisions in this one. But I do use it. You can see me use it when trying to sort Andre.

How do I say this.
For the purposes of this game. Assume I'm town reading NS because I don't trust my judgment as much as I trust IV and Bulge not to lie here.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:30 pm

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Like I’m all for using your own reads but Id say trust the dude who just found and got my scum buddy clowned before me purely based off mine and his interactions but I digress

We need to consolidate I think. I’m gonna move back to bella.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 1115, Bell wrote:I use meta, I'm not sure how useful it is or what you need to look for in old games to make decisions in this one. But I do use it. You can see me use it when trying to sort Andre.

How do I say this.
For the purposes of this game. Assume I'm town reading NS because I don't trust my judgment as much as I trust IV and Bulge not to lie here.
Personally, I'm opting to ignore past games/meta entirely as it's not fun and I don't want to read every game everyone has ever played.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:04 pm

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I am trying to get Bella’s POV because I don’t think scum Bella would be scumreading me here like I said

But I don’t get why she had Shelly as null and I don’t get where her bulge townread comes from either
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 1118, notscience wrote:I am trying to get Bella’s POV because I don’t think scum Bella would be scumreading me here like I said

But I don’t get why she had Shelly as null and I don’t get where her bulge townread comes from either
i told her I am town in our pt
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:07 pm

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In post 1075, notscience wrote:VOTE: the bulge
do you think bella and I are feasible partners? ie when one of us flips town will your read of the other strengthen or weaken or irrelevant. I know you've touched on this but i dont feel like reading back
In post 1090, notscience wrote:Both are based off a game we just finished.

I was scum vs them. Bella had me as town and would therefore make sense to read change me like she did after being wrong, that extra paranoia says more town

But bulge just feels different. Even though I was scum there I would have genuinely townread him but I don’t feel that way here.
to be fair, I was riding the confidence high of having receipts for my reads that game

In post 1092, Bell wrote:I tried to meta the bulge and his only scum game his town was really, really off.
lmao please spare yourself the trouble of trying to meta read me from posts i made in high school
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:09 pm

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I'm feeling really uncertain about plusjoyed. Although I suppose most of the negatives come from that back-and-forth with andre a little while back. eh probably town.

bella is still town as well

my vote stays on andre
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:09 pm

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oh ya andre its a tunnel thing now :cool:
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:10 pm

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forgot i had these in another tab
In post 1096, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: The Bulge
In post 1097, Andresvmb wrote:Nah that vote is probably wrong. I need to figure out what I want to do this game. I think that if Bella was Town, they would have been probably hammered by now.

I’ll switch back.

VOTE: Bella
interested to hear what, if anything, happened between these two posts
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:19 pm

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Idk bulge frankly

My baseline is those townreads. I think Bella’s read reversal makes her more likely to be town but I think your read solidifying means you could be town too so ugh
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