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skitt, at the begining of the game, you commented on koba/tw never being s/s... does that still hold?
pedit: i'm a mix of "i want to end this" adn "oh god i'm not ready" idkI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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idk. if u read thru that section she inexplicably wanted to not vote you, which was a p strange reaction from a townieIn post 4993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.In post 4990, skitter30 wrote:i mean scum don't always play optimallyShowHiatus once more.
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ok i slightly lied here, i'm also looking for quotes and shit i'm gonna dump in my notes PT if the game goes to night 3In post 4998, Datisi wrote:
i'm thinking about going for a walk and trying to forget about this game for a little while longer, why?In post 4996, skitter30 wrote:dats what are u thinking rn?
wanted to check micc's ruleset first if i'm allowed to mention thatI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- skitter30
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um not as strongly cuz it was ages and ages ago but i trust past!me saying that if that makes sense?In post 5001, Datisi wrote:skitt, at the begining of the game, you commented on koba/tw never being s/s... does that still hold?
pedit: i'm a mix of "i want to end this" adn "oh god i'm not ready" idk
rn i'm kinda taking tw out of the lynchpool cuz ur telling me he mechanically has to be town, which negates ss/tw in any universeShowHiatus once more.
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like here's the setup as I understand it.
The moderator randomly selects 9 games, he then creates a game with roles from those 9 games.
A lover without a lover is functionally equivalent to a vanilla townie
A neighbor without a neighbor is functionally equivalent to a vanilla townie
A neighbor bodyguard without a neighbor is functionally equivalent to a regular bodyguard.
Since none of the roles are from the same game - they would not form "hoods" or "love-pairs" The existence of a neighbor or a lover does not imply or not imply the existence of another lover/neighbor.
Claiming "neighborless bodyguard neighbor" is just a fake claim like any other - it has no real reason to be more or less likely to exist on purely mechanical reason. Please tell me what I'm not seeing here?Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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like why can't neighbor bodyguard be a fake-claim? I'm just not seeing what mechanically makes it so that TW must be town because from my role PM I know he is scum here and I just wish I could understand the mistake you are making in your logic so I can correct itShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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enjoy your walk datsIn post 4998, Datisi wrote:
i'm thinking about going for a walk and trying to forget about this game for a little while longer, why?In post 4996, skitter30 wrote:dats what are u thinking rn?
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it was about their spat at like the first 5 pages i think
and like... i think he's town on mechanics. i think the bg claim is town and makes more sense with mfd than a bomb and the neighbourless neighbour is like ~symmetry~ and i guess kinda ~poetic~ with a loverless lover and i know that can be a fakeclaim but it just strikes me as something scum simply isn't likely to fakeclaim???
which like doesn't make him 100% irrefutably undeniably town but like... mech isn't the only way we're reading him anyway, no?
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well the bg bit apparently, the neighbor bit is just icing on the cake given that dats is claiming loveless loverIn post 5006, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like why can't neighbor bodyguard be a fake-claim? I'm just not seeing what mechanically makes it so that TW must be town because from my role PM I know he is scum here and I just wish I could understand the mistake you are making in your logic so I can correct it
apparently we need the bg to be balanced against mfdShowHiatus once more.
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yes it's weird from a townie but it's beyond suicidal dumb if we were S/S together.In post 5002, skitter30 wrote:
idk. if u read thru that section she inexplicably wanted to not vote you, which was a p strange reaction from a townieIn post 4993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.In post 4990, skitter30 wrote:i mean scum don't always play optimally
Like I wanted to lynch myself that day and I KNEW what my role pm was.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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did you think yesterday that we had 3 TPRs or 2 TPRs?In post 5009, skitter30 wrote:
well the bg bit apparently, the neighbor bit is just icing on the cake given that dats is claiming loveless loverIn post 5006, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like why can't neighbor bodyguard be a fake-claim? I'm just not seeing what mechanically makes it so that TW must be town because from my role PM I know he is scum here and I just wish I could understand the mistake you are making in your logic so I can correct it
apparently we need the bg to be balanced against mfdShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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yes, i knew where it was fromIn post 5008, Datisi wrote:it was about their spat at like the first 5 pages i think
and like... i think he's town on mechanics. i
i had reread it a few days ago and like i didn't think it as strongly as i did at the time but i trust past!me making that assessment, is what i ment
and wrt mechanics i meant the bg bit
i think he/pooky is kinda impossible
i hadn't done any work to specifically rule out ss/tw this day phase but like i'm relying on tw!bg = town and koba being town i guess
ss's confidence this phase is also +town but i can see it coming from scum tooShowHiatus once more.
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i didn't really think about it, i'm not good at mechanics and usually let other people work that bit outIn post 5011, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did you think yesterday that we had 3 TPRs or 2 TPRs?ShowHiatus once more.
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*not good at mechanics as townShowHiatus once more.
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because they are Roles That Come In Pairs. like idk how else to explain it. my existence doesn't 100% imply his and vice versa but but it's... idk nice in a way? like i don't know how else to explain it but it just seems like too much of a coincidence for scum to fakeclaim pairless pair role and here to actually be a single pairless pair role in town???In post 5005, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Since none of the roles are from the same game - they would not form "hoods" or "love-pairs" The existence of a neighbor or a lover does not imply or not imply the existence of another lover/neighbor.
Claiming "neighborless bodyguard neighbor" is just a fake claim like any other - it has no real reason to be more or less likely to exist on purely mechanical reason. Please tell me what I'm not seeing here?
and also bodyguard + MFD mechanic makes sense. especially if scum also claims sometihng like (idk bomb) and throws doubt on the bg. arguably it works the other way too. but a protective + strongman with a drawback. ~setup synergy~. idk i'm tired.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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In post 5008, Datisi wrote:and like... i think he's town on mechanics. i think the bg claim is town and makes more sense with mfd than a bomb and the neighbourless neighbour is like ~symmetry~ and i guess kinda ~poetic~ with a loverless lover and i know that can be a fakeclaim but it just strikes me as something scum simply isn't likely to fakeclaim???
Why isn't scum likely to fake-claim neighborless neighbor? there is no risk to it, it's an added detail that makes the lie seem more real.
Also the scum knew about the MFD so they knew a BG claim would not really put them in the spot where town could go "hey you didn't protect XXX you must be a bad person!" like they knew they had an out if they failed to protect skitter...Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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because neighbourless neighbour is so out of this world???I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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why would the mod put in 2 roles that come in pairs and allow the town to conf 2 more town when he already put in a conf town FN?In post 5015, Datisi wrote:because they are Roles That Come In Pairs. like idk how else to explain it. my existence doesn't 100% imply his and vice versa but but it's... idk nice in a way? like i don't know how else to explain it but it just seems like too much of a coincidence for scum to fakeclaim pairless pair role and here to actually be a single pairless pair role in town???
That would be 3 conf town roles in a 9p vs 2 scum?Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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i'm gonna quote a mastina adage: scum like to try to make the possible ~probable~
like techincally scum!tw could have been informed of loverless!dats and known about the mfd and come up with that exact fake-claim
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like when i was reading my own role PM i was like "wait... what???" and idk
they could've asked micc like "hey micc theoretically is it possible you put in a neighbourless neighbour in the game" and then fakeclaimed that but (1) it just seems like a lovely detail on the read that is town!tw and scum!pooky and (2) what if there were actual neighbours in the game??? tw fakeclaims neighbours then??? how does he talk himself out of being a neighbour in no hood?? likeI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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well since we're not treating me and tw as masons and you're pushing for his execution, i'd argue it didn't confirm anythingIn post 5018, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
why would the mod put in 2 roles that come in pairs and allow the town to conf 2 more town when he already put in a conf town FN?In post 5015, Datisi wrote:because they are Roles That Come In Pairs. like idk how else to explain it. my existence doesn't 100% imply his and vice versa but but it's... idk nice in a way? like i don't know how else to explain it but it just seems like too much of a coincidence for scum to fakeclaim pairless pair role and here to actually be a single pairless pair role in town???
That would be 3 conf town roles in a 9p vs 2 scum?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- PookyTheMagicalBear
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ok but if people really thought that only 1 of me/TW was going to be a TPR and the game makes more sense with 2 TPRs than 3, the correct play on D2 is to lynch one of us to determine the other.In post 5013, skitter30 wrote:
i didn't really think about it, i'm not good at mechanics and usually let other people work that bit outIn post 5011, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did you think yesterday that we had 3 TPRs or 2 TPRs?
Like a red pooky flip heavily implies green TW and vice-versa.
a green Pooky flip doesn't mean TW must be scum but it puts tremendous pressure on him to protect successfully or face getting wagoned
that's what I was trying to go for with the self-lynch on D2 but I didn't put it exactly in those terms because I choked hard that day,Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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wow if only there weren't people hard pushing for dsjstr!!!I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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walcc time. i'll be back at some point in this century.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M - Datisi
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