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Post Post #5050 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:34 am

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In post 5048, Datisi wrote:there was still risk that we would call bullshit on his neighbourless neighbour claim, considering he was fairly scumread at the time.
but that's the same risk that exists for any role right?
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Post Post #5051 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:35 am

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In post 5047, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:My point is that if the town believes that 3 TPR is too much for this game and there should only be 2 TPR then me flipping green TPR makes TW look pretty bad in the lylo no?

and you death-tunneling me from D1 and me flipping green doesn't make you look worse imo because it doesn't make much sense for scum to go full death-tunnel on a town player in D1
*if*. the main word is *if*. the town *doesn't know* how many TPRs there are. i've seen a town believe that 4 town PR claims are true. lylo is one hell of a drug.

and even if tw gets executed in lylo. then what. you *still* have me looking kinda shit from that tunnel and you *still* have raven tunneled on dsjstr.
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Post Post #5052 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:36 am

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In post 5050, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5048, Datisi wrote:there was still risk that we would call bullshit on his neighbourless neighbour claim, considering he was fairly scumread at the time.
but that's the same risk that exists for any role right?
but no other role (other than me which he couldn't have known at the time) was claiming "hey i am a role that comes in pairs except i don't have a pair and i'm not really that role that i just claimed" like this is not difficult
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Post Post #5053 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:36 am

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Dats I don't want you to get frustrated talking this out with me - we are on the same team here.

But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.
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Post Post #5054 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:36 am

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In post 5049, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:4. You didn't know of the existence of an MfD which makes Bomb as a role make much much more sense.
oh gee i wonder why you claimed bomb
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Post Post #5055 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:37 am

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i'm not frustrated. the fact i'm conftown to you and you can't spin this around into a push on me is keeping me calm.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #5056 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:38 am

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In post 5051, Datisi wrote:
In post 5047, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:My point is that if the town believes that 3 TPR is too much for this game and there should only be 2 TPR then me flipping green TPR makes TW look pretty bad in the lylo no?

and you death-tunneling me from D1 and me flipping green doesn't make you look worse imo because it doesn't make much sense for scum to go full death-tunnel on a town player in D1
*if*. the main word is *if*. the town *doesn't know* how many TPRs there are. i've seen a town believe that 4 town PR claims are true. lylo is one hell of a drug.

and even if tw gets executed in lylo. then what. you *still* have me looking kinda shit from that tunnel and you *still* have raven tunneled on dsjstr.
I was honestly hoping that me dying would somehow dislodge raven from dsj(because I claimed he was def town in my read) and dislodge you from the tunnel on me. It's a long shot but I think it was better odds than what's happening today :(
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Post Post #5057 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:38 am

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In post 5053, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.
i literally already said that, when talking purely of mechanics, there is nothing making the worst 100% undeiably undoubtably guaranteeing town like
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Post Post #5058 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:39 am

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In post 5055, Datisi wrote:i'm not frustrated. the fact i'm conftown to you and you can't spin this around into a push on me is keeping me calm.
ok but I'm not trying to win an argument here - I'm just trying to get you on my page because we share the same win condition and it's hard when I feel you dig in more every time I explain things and I don't know how to reach you.
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Post Post #5059 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:40 am

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In post 5057, Datisi wrote:
In post 5053, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.
i literally already said that, when talking purely of mechanics, there is nothing making the worst 100% undeiably undoubtably guaranteeing town like
ok that's basically what I was going for - because skitter thinks TW is mech-town based on your mech read.
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Post Post #5060 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:41 am

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I thought we agreed that this game needs the bg to be balanced
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Post Post #5061 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:42 am

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Like all the neighborhood/paired stuff is kinda not that relevant
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Post Post #5062 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:43 am

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In post 5054, Datisi wrote:oh gee i wonder why you claimed bomb
I'm really a bomb.

If I was setting up a fake-claim with a MfD to make it more believable I wouldn't fake-claim vig first.

My entire play in regards to the fake-claim and softing TPR is to try to draw a NK so I could blow up scum. I had no idea scum had some kind of MfD move to bypass bomb completely.

Like if I'm scum - I really wouldn't set up my bomb fake-claim with a vig fake-claim first - that's just insanely dumb to do and usually leads to auto-lynch on the spot.
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Post Post #5063 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:43 am

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In post 5060, skitter30 wrote:I thought we agreed that this game needs the bg to be balanced
to my knowledge, yes. but i'm not that good with mechanics to be able to say it 100% undoubtably makes him town. i believe him to be town. i'm probably going to bet the game on him being town. would i bet my life? no.
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Post Post #5064 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:44 am

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Its ok, we dont need to bet ur life dats :)

But like vast majority of the time bg just makes him town, right?
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Post Post #5065 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:46 am

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we all kind of share the same life here
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Post Post #5066 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:48 am

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my friend gave you access to the fogey section if you want to read my tryhard town game skitter:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=82687
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Post Post #5067 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 5064, skitter30 wrote:But like vast majority of the time bg just makes him town, right?
i... think so....
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Post Post #5068 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:51 am

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but that's really just guessing at what role the moderator would include in the game

and if its mechanically the more sensible role to have in the game, its also mechanically the more sensible role for scum to claim.
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Post Post #5069 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 2101, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2099, Rosso Carne wrote:Pooky

Mislynching some others is ok

Mislynching me is stupid as fuck

Because I'm like you

Brilliant
I'm about ready for this game to end.

catch these guys a scum and all they do is come up with nonsense
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Post Post #5070 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:53 am

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i am extremely moody in games that I get irrationally committed into

it comes from an incredible lack of emotional maturity
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Post Post #5071 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:54 am

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my god that is a big mood
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Post Post #5072 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:56 am

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you should see how many uh stupid moody explosions I have in that game as town

it's kind of ridiculous -.-
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Post Post #5073 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:56 am

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Ok i skimmed the last page of ur iso there and it is devoid of badfaith arguments as far as i can tell
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Post Post #5074 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:01 am

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ok but you see how I do try-hard as town too right? my effort level is not alignment indicative - I will focus hard on a game if I am interested in it.
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