Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there was still risk that we would call bullshit on his neighbourless neighbour claim, considering he was fairly scumread at the time.

but that's the same risk that exists for any role right?

[Datisi]

My point is that if the town believes that 3 TPR is too much for this game and there should only be 2 TPR then me flipping green TPR makes TW look pretty bad in the lylo no?

and you death-tunneling me from D1 and me flipping green doesn't make you look worse imo because it doesn't make much sense for scum to go full death-tunnel on a town player in D1

*if*. the main word is *if*. the town *doesn't know* how many TPRs there are. i've seen a town believe that 4 town PR claims are true. lylo is one hell of a drug.

and even if tw gets executed in lylo. then what. you *still* have me looking kinda shit from that tunnel and you *still* have raven tunneled on dsjstr.

[Datisi]

there was still risk that we would call bullshit on his neighbourless neighbour claim, considering he was fairly scumread at the time.

but that's the same risk that exists for any role right?

but no other role (other than me which he couldn't have known at the time) was claiming "hey i am a role that comes in pairs except i don't have a pair and i'm not really that role that i just claimed" like this is not difficult

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Dats I don't want you to get frustrated talking this out with me - we are on the same team here.

But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.

[Datisi]

4. You didn't know of the existence of an MfD which makes Bomb as a role make much much more sense.

oh gee i wonder why you claimed bomb

[Datisi]

i'm not frustrated. the fact i'm conftown to you and you can't spin this around into a push on me is keeping me calm.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My point is that if the town believes that 3 TPR is too much for this game and there should only be 2 TPR then me flipping green TPR makes TW look pretty bad in the lylo no?

and you death-tunneling me from D1 and me flipping green doesn't make you look worse imo because it doesn't make much sense for scum to go full death-tunnel on a town player in D1

*if*. the main word is *if*. the town *doesn't know* how many TPRs there are. i've seen a town believe that 4 town PR claims are true. lylo is one hell of a drug.

and even if tw gets executed in lylo. then what. you *still* have me looking kinda shit from that tunnel and you *still* have raven tunneled on dsjstr.

I was honestly hoping that me dying would somehow dislodge raven from dsj(because I claimed he was def town in my read) and dislodge you from the tunnel on me. It's a long shot but I think it was better odds than what's happening today

[Datisi]

But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.

i literally already said that, when talking purely of mechanics, there is nothing making the worst 100% undeiably undoubtably guaranteeing town like

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm not frustrated. the fact i'm conftown to you and you can't spin this around into a push on me is keeping me calm.

ok but I'm not trying to win an argument here - I'm just trying to get you on my page because we share the same win condition and it's hard when I feel you dig in more every time I explain things and I don't know how to reach you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But is there any actual mechanical reason why TW has to be town here? Because I don't really see anything from you other than you think it would look "nice or poetic" as you put it earlier to have 2 pairless roles in the game.

i literally already said that, when talking purely of mechanics, there is nothing making the worst 100% undeiably undoubtably guaranteeing town like

ok that's basically what I was going for - because skitter thinks TW is mech-town based on your mech read.

[skitter30]

I thought we agreed that this game needs the bg to be balanced

[skitter30]

Like all the neighborhood/paired stuff is kinda not that relevant

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh gee i wonder why you claimed bomb

I'm really a bomb.

If I was setting up a fake-claim with a MfD to make it more believable I wouldn't fake-claim vig first.

My entire play in regards to the fake-claim and softing TPR is to try to draw a NK so I could blow up scum. I had no idea scum had some kind of MfD move to bypass bomb completely.

Like if I'm scum - I really wouldn't set up my bomb fake-claim with a vig fake-claim first - that's just insanely dumb to do and usually leads to auto-lynch on the spot.

[Datisi]

I thought we agreed that this game needs the bg to be balanced

to my knowledge, yes. but i'm not that good with mechanics to be able to say it 100% undoubtably makes him town. i believe him to be town. i'm probably going to bet the game on him being town. would i bet my life? no.

[skitter30]

Its ok, we dont need to bet ur life dats

But like vast majority of the time bg just makes him town, right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we all kind of share the same life here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my friend gave you access to the fogey section if you want to read my tryhard town game skitter:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=82687

[Datisi]

But like vast majority of the time bg just makes him town, right?

i... think so....

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but that's really just guessing at what role the moderator would include in the game

and if its mechanically the more sensible role to have in the game, its also mechanically the more sensible role for scum to claim.

[skitter30]

Pooky

Mislynching some others is ok

Mislynching me is stupid as fuck

Because I'm like you

Brilliant

I'm about ready for this game to end.

catch these guys a scum and all they do is come up with nonsense

Big mood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am extremely moody in games that I get irrationally committed into

it comes from an incredible lack of emotional maturity

[Datisi]

my god that is a big mood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you should see how many uh stupid moody explosions I have in that game as town

it's kind of ridiculous -.-

[skitter30]

Ok i skimmed the last page of ur iso there and it is devoid of badfaith arguments as far as i can tell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but you see how I do try-hard as town too right? my effort level is not alignment indicative - I will focus hard on a game if I am interested in it.