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[Alduskkel]

claiming an inno on me just seems like it'll lead to a double quickelim on us

i guess another option is claiming guilty on koba day 4? but that's still leaves you in the difficult position of explaining 1) why you're still alive and 2) why you didn't investigate me

[VP Baltar]

Yeah I dunno how you explain being alive on Day 5, that's like the one flaw in the plan (guilty on me then guilty on koba) imo

it's just every other plan seems worse

Yeah, not wrong. The other plans may be more problematic long term.

What if I claimed I was roleblocked? Could speculate on some type of scum Joat

[NoPowerOverMe]

How about just claiming a guilty on koba.

[Alduskkel]

why would you be roleblocked now but not during N2?

[VP Baltar]

If they're Joat, they could have used some other ability n2

[VP Baltar]

How about just claiming a guilty on koba.

What would be my reasoning for choosing Koba over Aldus?

[Alduskkel]

(not a direct response to the above) if you claim a guilty on koba, you can make a good argument that koba-scum would rather have a 1v1 with VPB than icon or andres, both of whom have racked up a fair amount of towncred by now

[VP Baltar]

(not a direct response to the above) if you claim a guilty on koba, you can make a good argument that koba-scum would rather have a 1v1 with VPB than icon or andres, both of whom have racked up a fair amount of towncred by now

This is true. Plus Koba's play on the Tess wagon was bad. I can claim I investigated her because after the flip, her play on Tess looked the worst. Aldus was excusable because if he is town, he was trying to save his own life.

I'm going to have to mea culpa because I pushed Tess hard, but whatevs..

[Alduskkel]

koba's pronoun is they

[VP Baltar]

Yes! Thank you.

[Alduskkel]

i still think it looks better if you claim a guilty on me and only on day 5 claim a guilty on koba

[Alduskkel]

@NPOM: I know you prefer that VPB claim a guilty on Koba right away. How do you think VPB explains not investigating me after making this post?

I mean, we have a full day still. We can take more time if needed. Just feels to me like there is a case on testa and a gut on aldus. I'll be dead tomorrow or I'd offer to just cop Aldus and sort it. Wish we had a doc

I also just feel like every single town player is against me so trying to get myself out of that hole seems basically impossible.

[VP Baltar]

I mean, a false guilty forces them to pick between me and Koba. All we need is a single vote in our favor and we can just Auto yeet.

[VP Baltar]

Andres will vote me probably. No clue on Ico. We may be able to get hellbrooks to vote for Koba? Hellbrooks likes me so far.

[Alduskkel]

maybe i leverage my obvscumness and act like i'm leaning toward voting you over koba

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, I think you'd want to vote toward me.

We should figure out what is the best timezone for us to coordinate our votes too. I tend to be online in the mornings and afternoons PST

[Alduskkel]

if we go with the immediate guilty on koba then NPOM needs to be careful to not look too aligned with VPB, because if this plan fails then NPOM is probably the only one with a chance of surviving the fallout

i tend to be online afternoons and evenings/late nights PST

[VP Baltar]

It's definitely the riskier plan.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Say kobes massclaim was scummy.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't expect much resistance.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I can defend Kona should have the same outcome.

[VP Baltar]

So let's say worst case scenario if I claim a guilty on Koba is that:

Andres, Koba, Ico all turn on VP.

It will come down to hellbrooks. Plus you guys won't have much room to bus me.

Although, if Aldus comes out to bus me hard, Andres might avoid a VP wagon?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I think you're overthinking it. Town will want an "easy scum lynch".

[VP Baltar]

You might be right. Aldus, you think we should just go for the Koba kill?

[Alduskkel]

Yeah, okay, we'll give it a shot. NPOW and I will avoid supporting you though until a townie votes wrong and we can pounce.