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[Iconeum]

but what i think this is

3 mason with a mason tracker and a PT cop generating false guilties

vs some thing like a rolecop

feels balanced

[NoPowerOverMe]

No scum are dead. So scum could have virtually anything.

[hellbooks]

i think i'm just going to clear ico in my head but like i feel like scum is in an extraordinarily strong position and that probably makes it easier to really dissolve oneself in the town mindset

[Iconeum]

No scum are dead. So scum could have virtually anything.

scum knew exactly who they wanted dead N2

they killed the exact mason tracker despite a claim from datisi

and they did NOT know that from VP


so it doesn't matter what investigative they have

VP being PT cop makes a ton of sense seeing we have 3 masons because of the false positives it can generate



if VP is lying then all we have are 3 masons with a tracker vs an investigative which doesn't really feel strong

and i know who made this setup, this reeks of him

[Iconeum]

i think i'm just going to clear ico in my head but like i feel like scum is in an extraordinarily strong position and that probably makes it easier to really dissolve oneself in the town mindset

well

at one point this will come down to

1)we believe vp
2)we don't

it's literally a coinflip

but a necesarry one

[Iconeum]

the coincidence of tracking him to the kill

or the balanced look of him actually having that role *and claiming it prior to mason claims*

[NoPowerOverMe]

Youd know better than me.

[Iconeum]

hey ehm

you never came around to answering my questions

care to do that sometime soon?

[Iconeum]

or maybe you can't because i didn't you capitalization?

[Iconeum]

VP, what made you decide to investigate koba exactly?

[Iconeum]

i'm perfectly willing to lose this game if VP is scum

and on the side that he has a guilty, we have a decent shot at winning still

[VP Baltar]

and scum do NOT have 2 power roles

VP could be a goon

How would I have known you had a PT then? Lucky guess?

I just delivered us the game after my role was completely ruined D2. No respect around here!

[hellbooks]

I'm trying to do my due diligence here

[hellbooks]

I haven't revealed my entire thoughts yet i just want koba to post

[hellbooks]

o spirit of datisi... can you hear me...

[Iconeum]

i don't mind you doing that at all

there *is* a chance, VP, simple as that

do you guys think i'm right about andres now or?

[VP Baltar]

VP, what made you decide to investigate koba exactly?

I figured I was dead, so I decided I should moonshot and try to figure out the hardest scum to find. I had kind of settled on NPOM-Aldus as a likely pair after the Testa flip. That left you, Koba, Andres. I felt a little better about Andres after going kind of hard at him yesterday. You have been pretty solidly in my townpile most of the game. So that left Koba. I didn't have a particularly strong scum read there, but there was the weird softclaim yesterday, and SOMEONE had to be the third scum. I didn't think I'd still be here, so felt like a risk worth taking, if only so I could dish to the dead thread.

[hellbooks]

I've always been a little sympathetic to andres

[Iconeum]

i'll be back tomorrow

[Andresvmb]

right

scum taking away my support

we are lynching npow/aldus today

scumteam is npow + aldus + koba(with a chance of it being andres instead of koba)

I think Aldus is correct, and I did think that Koba was also almost guaranteed Scum after the Testa flip. I don’t understand why VPB is still alive.

[Andresvmb]

and andres

My read on you has not changed. Why would it?

[Iconeum]

a new day

new flips

VP not dead despite what *should* have happened

a lot changed

[Andresvmb]

No but we were on the same wagon on what is now guaranteed Scum from my POV, so if anything I am more confident that you’re Town.

[Andresvmb]

However! And this is the fun part. I did very much predict we would be sitting right here right now, with VPB still alive and a guilty. I would feel far better if we executed Aldus actually. But I understand how it might be hard to get away from a red check.

[NoPowerOverMe]

You know this is ello right?