Micro 962: Geriatric Trio II (Town Victory)

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.11

Sou and Kanna

(3): AGar 26, Bell 399, Michael Scott 409

The Bulge

(2): Klick412, Kmd4930 413

Bell

(1): xReckonerx 374

Not Voting

(3): The Bulge 262, Sou and Kanna 397, Bingle 422

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to Eliminate
Day one ends Wednesday, August 26th at 8:30pm EST, or in (expired on 2020-08-26 20:30:00)

Mod Notes:

Reck is V/LA(?)

Klick has used 1/20 Reserve Posts
Bell has used 19/20 Reserve Posts
Just a reminder that Post Counts reset at 8:30pm EST for this phase and that your Reserve Posts are a game-long reserve.

[The Bulge]

search topic. bulge returns 72 matches. bugs* returns 69 matches. bugs* +bulge returns 13.

leaving this here while I read

[Michael Scott]

I asked the mod and he confirmed that the deadline is today, not Thursday, so the deadline is in about 3 and a half hours from now. Ari also updated the latest VC to reflect this as well.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Klick]

Oh what.

SK is not going to flip scum. There's a pretty solid chance that Bulge will.

[The Bulge]

I won't be eliminated today

[Michael Scott]

somebody who is still bringing up bugspray knows he is town. this is fucking ridiculous, I refuse to believe that the most circumstantial meta read I have ever fucking heard is so universally known and respected. If i am scum I promise you there is something to find in my iso

Was this directed at me? My read on Bugspray/you is more about SK's push on them than it is about Bugspray's content. I've stated numerous times why I'm not convinced that town!SK would strongly scumread Bugspray (or Agar) for the reasons that they provided.

Were you suggesting that I'm scum, and that I'm TMI'ng your slot as town?


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Michael Scott]

Oh what.

SK is not going to flip scum. There's a pretty solid chance that Bulge will.

How confident are you on scum!Bulge?


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Klick]

Not like hugely, but more confident than I'd be in most other slots flipping scum?
I'm a lot more confident that SK doesn't flip scum.

[Sou and Kanna]

re AGar's 406: "397 is repeating shit for the sake of looking busy " - the fuck am i repeating exactly?? i unvoted, declared i'm not ccing the jailkeeper, talked to bingle about mechanics, and declared i'm independently townreading klick

~sou

[Sou and Kanna]

wrt to MS; I’m wondering if you’re pushing us in bad faith.
- at the time of bugs repping out, they had a few questionable posts and we questioned them. how is it not likely they repped out because they got pressured early and felt demotivated to answer? repping out as scum when you’re “caught scum” is bad sportsmanship, but it’s arguably better if you do it early on so your successor has some chance of turning it around. Datisi has knows bugs well; he scumreads the actual posts themselves/was trying to sort them. you paint your read as “SK aren’t likely to think this” but I don’t think you’re giving thought into what we are actually likely to think
- ok, I won’t argue too much with this one because in retrospect, this was just a Flawed push, but I’m concerned with how much you’re focused on it being Bad as opposed to whether or not it’s likely we made it genuinely. honestly like i don't even know how to explain it other than "you're taking our posts and making it sound like we locked onto them as scum when that was blatantly not the case

anyway, it looks like we’re close to eating rope so

We’re FN

We’re confirmable tomorrow. The bulge is scum.

VOTE: the bulge

~k

p-edit: oh hello

[Michael Scott]

If Bulge just insinuated what I think he just insinuated about me, then that definitely is making me reconsider the SK vs Bugspray/Bulge dynamic. Why would town!Bulge think that the most likely scenario is that I, as scum, have chosen to indirectly hard defend his slot (via pushing SK) for this entire day phase?

Maybe Bugspray does replace out more as scum -- I don't know as I only looked at the game I mentioned (where Bugspray replaced out as town), and the two Micro games that Datisi brought up where Burspray was scum, but posted a lot and didn't replace out.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: The Bulge


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[The Bulge]

oh this just got easy lmao

VOTE: sk

[The Bulge]

somebody who is still bringing up bugspray knows he is town. this is fucking ridiculous, I refuse to believe that the most circumstantial meta read I have ever fucking heard is so universally known and respected. If i am scum I promise you there is something to find in my iso

Was this directed at me? My read on Bugspray/you is more about SK's push on them than it is about Bugspray's content. I've stated numerous times why I'm not convinced that town!SK would strongly scumread Bugspray (or Agar) for the reasons that they provided.

Were you suggesting that I'm scum, and that I'm TMI'ng your slot as town?


- Date Mike (Volxen)

I was reading you and sk in iso to get a better understanding of the discussion and why I felt so ignored this game. I've been trying to make mikescum make sense to me all afternoon and I thought sk was town.

[The Bulge]

you were my secret scumread I mentioned, for earlier stated reasons that you were putting so much energy into a repped out player while ignoring the rest of the game

now that sk is scum i dont think you are likely their partner

[Michael Scott]

If Bulge flips red: There is no way that I would bring up the real deadline (everyone thought that it was Thursday) and then bus Bulge if we were scum together. I would just let the deadline run out with a no-elimination, as that's far better than running the risk of a deadline wagon building up on Bulge, especially since we have a JK.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[The Bulge]

which is cool because i've been racking my brain all day and now i can just smoke a bowl and wait for night

[The Bulge]

I'm the friendly neighbour if I didn't make that clear. crumbs are for chumps. if i die today my wagon is badtown, the rest are scum.

[Michael Scott]

you were my secret scumread I mentioned, for earlier stated reasons that you were putting so much energy into a repped out player while ignoring the rest of the game

now that sk is scum i dont think you are likely their partner

Why do you think that scum!me would put all of that effort into defending town!you/Bugspray? It came across to me like you were scumreading me

just

because I questioned the semi-consensus that "Bugspray replaces out more as scum, and is therefore likely scum in this game" (I don't know this to be the case from firsthand experience, but I will assume it's true).

In particular, what I'm getting at is, why did you think the most likely scenario is A) I'm scum and hard defending you, even though doing so arguably doesn't really benefit scum!me in any way rather than B) I actually am town and thought that SK's push on you was questionable, and, a result, thought that your slot might have been town?

I mean I don't think you would argue that you and SK make sense as scum partners, so if I found SK's push on your predecessor (and, again, also their push on Agar) to be questionable, would it not make sense for me to townread you by extension?


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Michael Scott]

I'm the friendly neighbour if I didn't make that clear. crumbs are for chumps. if i die today my wagon is badtown, the rest are scum.

I knew you were implying a CC with your vote on SK. I don't believe you just because SK claimed first and you are the CC'er -- scum!you has every reason to CC town!SK in this gamestate, since you are the competing wagon and we are a few hours away from the deadline.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Michael Scott]

Anyways, Bulge is at E-1 now.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[The Bulge]

i mean that's fair which is why im going to look at some fish and won't be back until maybe 815. but if the timing of the claims is all that pushes it past 50/50, you should be looking at which d1 flip actually gives info

and to be perfectly honest i skimmed most of your long posts at first out of frustration at 1) too many words 2) ignoring my presence in the game, and thus didnt fully understand your stance until i looked back today

[The Bulge]

scumread because my previous slot owner repped out and eliminated because i didn't randomly claim for no reason. what a town.

[The Bulge]

anyway if im dead before deadline don't let mike skate the game by on locktown reads just from applying coherent streams of logic. and somebody do something about agar.

[Michael Scott]

Also @Bulge: Another reason why it makes sense for scum!you to CC town!SK here is to try and setup SK and us as back-to-back mis-eliminations. Because if I took your CC at face value and voted SK, then after you flip red on day 2 it looks like I was trying to buy you an extra day so we can deal with the JK and avoid any townies becoming confirmed.


- Date Mike (Volxen)