Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

this is on the presumption that dunn is uncc'd + if it is and i'm asleep everyone can strongarm an elim on him through regardless

VOTE: guiltylion

town dunn makes me feel better about tea + that vote a while back. my working brain completely brushed over the fact gl had said that thing about me + dunn. i don't like how he was ready to switch to me at any point were the signs there and then didn't really do much about it when i joined a wagon that he was also on. even if he thinks that we don't make sense together i'd think that someone would be a little more worried about their Strongest (?) scumread hopping on with them.

p-edit: ya that's fine with me

Yeah I kinda feel like this is a bit too accepting of his claim in a way? Like it feels very self-assured that this won’t be rebuked
If GL doesn’t CC I’m inclined to vote out Ydrasse, and if Ydrasse flips scum that probably clears GL because Ydrasse would know if GL was her partner and if they were partners there’d be that chance of a CC

[Isis]

uh

that's very backwards
scum!Ydrasse would imply scum!GL

Scum never ccs a town!Dunnstral here, no one's standing is poor enough to justify that.

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s that chance though
I feel like Ydrasse’s post just completely ignores that chances, at least subconsciously

[Isis]

yes.
her ignoring the chance means she knows it's suboptimal play for partner!GL

[Isis]

wait townies don't cc townies
my brain doesn't work
i hate named townies i just wanna play all vanilla setups

[Gamma Emerald]

yes.
her ignoring the chance means she knows it's suboptimal play for partner!GL

I understand that thought, but I don’t know if it lines up with the gamestate

[GuiltyLion]

I'm not the firefighter

VOTE: Ydrasse

[GuiltyLion]

I've only skimmed to see VCs, rereading in detail now

[GuiltyLion]

I like really strongly want to believe that GuiltyLion is about to claim Firefighter here so I don't really want to think about the game as much till that's confirmed/denied

Dunnstral's post looks like how he'd structure a fakeclaim. But I could be wrong; if you're confirmed inno you kind of can devilmaycare if you want to

LET'S GO GUILTY COME ON !!!!! you went to firefighter school didn't you ???

Not that I wont accept Dunn as our saviour and all but like, it'd make the game a lot easier and me a lot less incorrect

sorry to disappoint

[GuiltyLion]

I was saying to think about why posting cases on GL before CC is complete is bad.

it is bad because with town!Dunn and scum!GL GL gets advanced notice and can claim FF so that we stump Dunn. While if you wait for GL to claim VT and go for endgame, right after he claims VT you can say "btw you're not endgaming once I believe Dunn to be scum you're the one I hate" and he can't switch to counterclaiming FF

for clarity's sake, did you mean "once I believe Dunn to be town" here? otherwise I'm not really following this post

[GuiltyLion]

this is on the presumption that dunn is uncc'd + if it is and i'm asleep everyone can strongarm an elim on him through regardless

VOTE: guiltylion

town dunn makes me feel better about tea + that vote a while back. my working brain completely brushed over the fact gl had said that thing about me + dunn. i don't like how he was ready to switch to me at any point were the signs there and then didn't really do much about it when i joined a wagon that he was also on. even if he thinks that we don't make sense together i'd think that someone would be a little more worried about their Strongest (?) scumread hopping on with them.

p-edit: ya that's fine with me

Yeah I kinda feel like this is a bit too accepting of his claim in a way? Like it feels very self-assured that this won’t be rebuked
If GL doesn’t CC I’m inclined to vote out Ydrasse, and if Ydrasse flips scum that probably clears GL because Ydrasse would know if GL was her partner and if they were partners there’d be that chance of a CC

yeah +1 to this

like if Ydrasse knows both Dunn/I are town, then she knows his claim is true
if she were town, maybe Dunn is scum fake claiming and I (potential FF) just hadn't posted yet

[Isis]

I was saying to think about why posting cases on GL before CC is complete is bad.

it is bad because with town!Dunn and scum!GL GL gets advanced notice and can claim FF so that we stump Dunn. While if you wait for GL to claim VT and go for endgame, right after he claims VT you can say "btw you're not endgaming once I believe Dunn to be scum you're the one I hate" and he can't switch to counterclaiming FF

for clarity's sake, did you mean "once I believe Dunn to be town" here? otherwise I'm not really following this post

yes

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ydrasse
If I'm wrong I'll probably get executed at some point but I think this is a the right choice

[Isis]

did you know that was hammer

[Gamma Emerald]

I felt like it might be, didn't explicitly know
But we've had a claim by the one PR with no CC, and we're close to deadline, so I feel no remorse for unwittingly hammering

[Isis]

it's not even close to a hammer

[Isis]

I want to sheep the IC because idk this game

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
Did my response make you feel anything?

[Isis]

It was towny I disliked that it didn't affirm what I already wanted to do

[Isis]

Ydrasse has lots of detractors but MT is one of the Ydrasse stans and she has lots of town equity

[Morning Tweet]

sorry to disappoint :lol:

dammit!!!

Ydrasse I will visit your stump biweekly to honour your legacy. i may sit on top of you from time to time (but only when im feeling really tired). i will definitely not carve anything into you!

[Isis]

Tweet noooooooooooo

[Gamma Emerald]

damn
I was hoping to compare this to your reaction to my reaction to the fakehammer on me in Making Friends and Enemies but you said nothing in the dead PT about it

[Isis]

I don't remember this game. Do you mean Masons and Mafia? But I thought you weren't in that

[Farren]

VOTE: tea leaves

What Bell said last night - tea leaves' response to Ydrasse's pressure was nervous.