Yeah, but much harder to fake than the "lurk lurk lurk lurk lurk" strategy everybody else was following until we finally got some subs inIn post 945, Fidget wrote:I think your play today has been mostly dominstead by mechanical speculation and somewhat frustration AtE. That's not all you do, but those parts in particular are not hard to fake
It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted, why would I trade a good mislaunch for the uncertainty of today's launch? It would be the wrong scumplay, since I can't predict the effect of a subIn post 947, Fidget wrote:Puppy I think your plan was initially "Stress townread Fidget (to throw us off I guess and to be consistent with the read you've had this hold time), eliminate Kerset using her suspicions on Kerset, eliminate Fidget on the next day using midways preexisting suspicions"
It's a pretty slam dunk plan, you totally would have won that Xylo
well no if you flip town we just loseIn post 951, CantHateAPuppy wrote:It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted, why would I trade a good mislaunch for the uncertainty of today's launch? It would be the wrong scumplay, since I can't predict the effect of a subIn post 947, Fidget wrote:Puppy I think your plan was initially "Stress townread Fidget (to throw us off I guess and to be consistent with the read you've had this hold time), eliminate Kerset using her suspicions on Kerset, eliminate Fidget on the next day using midways preexisting suspicions"
It's a pretty slam dunk plan, you totally would have won that Xylo
Also I think if I were scum and I'd know what the deal is wrt the BP, I wouldn't need to spend that much time speculating in thread, it'd be a waste of my time when I could have laid the ground for some really effective dominance instead
Like your assumption is I'm playing a good scum game but if I were scum there'd be objectively better moves lol
Don't expect this to make a difference since your read is about day 1 wagons, but when I flip town you're going to have to resort your whole opinion on that and I'd rather we start now
Yeah midway hasn't done a towny thing (but we're agreeing he's town) and Kerset hasn't really either (but BM was townie and I can't wrap my head around the claim business)In post 950, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Yeah, but much harder to fake than the "lurk lurk lurk lurk lurk" strategy everybody else was following until we finally got some subs inIn post 945, Fidget wrote:I think your play today has been mostly dominstead by mechanical speculation and somewhat frustration AtE. That's not all you do, but those parts in particular are not hard to fake
Go reconsider what *you'd* talk about in my place here
I don't remember a single game where I was ever a big townread.In post 955, Fidget wrote:midway hasn't done a towny thing
naniIn post 955, Fidget wrote:midway hasn't done a towny thing (but we're agreeing he's town)
When?In post 951, CantHateAPuppy wrote:It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted,
What is the deal with this phasing? That basically just means puppy and r2r. Its obvious that midway doesn't vote for himself.In post 959, Fidget wrote:everyone decided mid is town yes? (besides Kerset)
When it was blair in the slot, feel like a couple people wanted to launch thatIn post 961, Kerset wrote:When?In post 951, CantHateAPuppy wrote:It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted,
so you don't think midway is town, you don't think he's scum, but you're just going to default to consensus? i don't understand that.In post 959, Fidget wrote:everyone decided mid is town yes? (besides Kerset)
I too struggle to find him scummy although not as much as I did before. Ready2rock also disapproved of going back on him
andIn post 897, ready2rock wrote:For midway, I've townread him since day 1 and I haven't had a compelling reason to re-evaluate that read, and I think now would be a bad time to try to rethink the entire game anyway. Mostly I find the fishing for town cred at the start of day 2 to be a thing that town!midway would definitely do, it felt genuine
In post 926, CantHateAPuppy wrote:The only thing I dislike about Fidg right now is her coming up with reasons why midway isn't so town after all, but then declaring he's off limits to her anyways
Also yeah it was but you need to get rid of two people not one. If you push someone other than me and call me town, you get to be like "Haha i was right" the next day and continue to push whoever you wanted all alongIn post 963, CantHateAPuppy wrote:When it was blair in the slot, feel like a couple people wanted to launch thatIn post 961, Kerset wrote:When?In post 951, CantHateAPuppy wrote:It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted,
^ this was a pretty strong midway question, basically undermining the whole read of his place on the ydrasse wagon that was his best town-proof, then you decide you won't ever double check anyways:In post 889, Fidget wrote:i just reread like the first twenty pages in bed cause this game stresses me out
Midway didnt push the Ydrasse wagon. im so dumb. the only time he pushed Ydrasse was when she was at 1 vote (his).
during crunch time where ydrasse and dunn both had a lot of steam end of day, he lobbed a ton of shade comments at Dunn despite voting for Ydrasse. and then switched to dunn. he never even says a word about ydrasse from what im seeing
IV, Nosferatu, Mafia Goon, and Puppy(to an extent) were all much more responsible for getting Ydrasse killed. while they were doing that, midway was questioning ppl townreading dunn and saying Dunns L-1 reaction wasnt hard to fake
it hardly makes sense for someone who thinks their option (the one they are voting FOR) is the best elim to then turn around and say "Yeah guys Dunn isnt swaying me you should finish him off". its odd
It looks like an early bus but it actually really wasnt, I think i interpreted it poorly on the first read. So either a.) im tired out of my mind and this reread is faulty so you should disregard this
or b.) My midway read is a total lie and I need to start weighing him against puppy
Also Kerset is way more likely town in that case
if midway is scum that perfectly explains why Puppy and Kerset feel towny and he doesnt. Kerset feels town from their predecessor, the claim, and that last frustrated comment abt midway. puppy idk also feels like town I'll go into it trrmow hopefully
this is still such a weird post to me. I do not get it. if he thinks IV is scummy, why is he voting Ydrasse?In post 431, midwaybear wrote:This is low key scummy because you aren’t specifying what role. I still will vote ydrasse though
VOTE: Ydrasse
i still cant think of an explanation for it honestly for any alignment
I am seriously considering the possibility that midway never intended for people to join him on Ydrasse and that credit grabbing at the end was him trying to salvage something from her death. Previously i had thought he was much more directly responsible for getting her killed but he really only pushed her when she wasnt under elimination pressure. but he makes it out like he did afterwards
Still though he might be town I guess because it was still a somewhat bold move to distance his partner early, just significantly less bold than i was thinking
anyway this has been me rambling at 5 am let me know if im more enlightened than before or if I just took a huge step backwards. I may completely change my mind tomorrow but i feel compelled to leave this here so i dont forget what I've been thinking abt thru the reread
In post 901, Fidget wrote:For the record I 100% leave midway in the townbin and do not reevaluate him ever as scum. I also wouldnt talk nearly as much and although I would effort decently, itd be in a much smaller amount of posts
That's okay though I feel sort of confident my pool of 2 is correct, meaning I have a 50/50 off the bat
I missed thisIn post 962, Kerset wrote:What is the deal with this phasing? That basically just means puppy and r2r. Its obvious that midway doesn't vote for himself.In post 959, Fidget wrote:everyone decided mid is town yes? (besides Kerset)
In post 973, Fidget wrote:I missed thisIn post 962, Kerset wrote:What is the deal with this phasing? That basically just means puppy and r2r. Its obvious that midway doesn't vote for himself.In post 959, Fidget wrote:everyone decided mid is town yes? (besides Kerset)
I don't see the issue with the phrasing really. I was under the impression no one but you suspects midway