Newbie 2023 - Hedgehogs - Day 3

[shellyc]

Andres they didn't claim!? What are you doing! I CLEARLY STATED I PUT THEM AT E-1. Why did you hammer before roleclaim and why did you hammer without saying anything else?

[shellyc]

I'm fairly sure that was hammer. If that turns out to be town PR Andres is almost outed scum here. If that's red, I'm rethinking the reads on Andres and Bulge.

[notscience]

...

There’s literally a vote count right before that post.

[Bell]

But it's a new page.
Anything could happen.

[shellyc]

Whoops. I'm so sorry at messing this up. Genuinely a mistake.

[Bell]

It's a newbie game.
Messing things up is exactly what you should be doing.

[shellyc]

It's a newbie game.
Messing things up is exactly what you should be doing.

by the way will probably not check in for the next 8 hours or so. I still want to hear about andres' vote of Bella.

[Andresvmb]

I was just putting my vote back to where I had it since the Claim from The Bulge wasn’t really a claim. That’s all.

[shellyc]

Cool. Andres I am still interested in why you have changed your vote a LOT of times.

[Bell]

Think we’re gunna have to wait for a replacement unfortunately.

[PlusJOYED]

I'd feel bad for anyone replacing into a near lynch when we have 1 day to go with nearly 50 pages to read.

[beeboy]

Searching for a replacement for Bellaphant. Deadline will be frozen at 1 day remaining.

[The Bulge]

Thought I'd have some time in the car for this today but I ended up driving. Tomorrow!

[shellyc]

Back in town. We should finalise lynchpool - Bella eliminate would be cool and I'm fine with Andres or the Bulge as well.

[notscience]

I’m fine with any of the three.

[PlusJOYED]

I'm fine with hammering bella now honestly even if it is anti-town for meta reasons. Even if you find a replacement soon, it's not really fair to say "here's 50 pages, we have 1 day and you're our main lynch target"
My mindset:
If they are a VT or claim VT, they wouldn't claim a PR role. Lynch and we'll get closer to solving even if they flip town.
If they are a PR, they'd have to claim or admit to it now. Not lynch
If they are a maf, they'd probably claim a PR at this point. In that case we'd see a counterclaim from the real PR. Lynch one of the 2.
If they are a PR and a maf counter claims PR, lynch 1 of the 2. If we lynch the real PR we lynch the other for easy lynch next day, and if we lynch the maf the PR dies that night from maf kill. Decent result either way.

The only terrible losing scenario here is if they are a PR and we kill them without a claim or counterclaim. That will be difficult to win for town.

[Bell]

Bro, we don’t use the L-word in these here parts.
Elimination, lunch, juice, exile, kill, murder, shoot into space, chop down, execute, send off the island, and many more options are available for your perusal.

I disagree, there’s a ton of benefit to narrowing the elimination pool from 3 to 2. Especially when they would otherwise be elimination-bait in elo.

[PlusJOYED]

Bro, we don’t use the L-word in these here parts.

Ahh, my bad, this is the first I've heard of it. I'll just say elim then.

[Bell]

Elim bait unpacking: in melo, it’s significantly easier to counter claim a PR claim as scum.

[shellyc]

Elim bait unpacking: in melo, it’s significantly easier to counter claim a PR claim as scum.

Why would counterclaiming in MeLo be significantly easier? IMO there's no difference.

[notscience]

If someone cc’s today we get a confirmed scum clown. If they cc tomorrow it’s a tossup.

[The Bulge]

zzz nvm

vote andre bella is prob vt

[Bell]

VOTE: Andrevsmb

[notscience]

How many votes is he at

[Bell]

3